Hi there,

Sadly, i have to admit that game dont encourage managers to go for best players, to train them for their maximum potential, all due of wages. The way wages are calculated right now is wrong, side skills dont bring avq, which dont increase wage but at same time, side skills matter a lot in games. My concern is, wages should be skill based, every skill should weight different, i dont mind, but AVQ shouldnt be the main factor. Right now, at every week, some managers quit, when they do, players have to be sold for 10% of the cost to get them, which is bad for game...

In my opinion the main issue of game right now is the lack of balancing, admin dont do changes to encourage players base to get the best players, when someone quits, there doesnt appear to come another player which wanna try to replace it and get in the fight for carrot, this, will most likely, kill even those managers which actually love the game and invest a lot cause, when those who loved the game build their desired team, there was a competition, there were funds, so, even if they couldnt profit , their team was at least sustenable, but now, they have to downgrade the cost of runing the team and this means, they have to sell players for a lose or deposit to keep pay their wages.

I ll give a fair example in Romanian league: It appears to be RALF the one which kinda love the most the game in this league, he went all in, have build a strong team, but, others have stopped playing, sold out which means, the funds in league 1 will get lower and lower while his club expenses go up, at some point, when game become too costly, some persons like RALF might stop too, or even if not, once curent players die, he along with a few others might find the only few managers left...

Also, the players wages weight different, defenders have got too big wages, way too big compared with any other player, if we look at top players they all are defenders since their avq comes big fast from just 2 skills, there are defenders with way less skill points than middfielders/strikers and at x3 or higher wages. If some balances into wages dont happens as soon as possible, i m afraid game will start again from 0 as it was in day 1 but with less will to go end game...

As a conclusion, there could be done 2 things about wages, either make them be based on skill points, then, who train side skills will pay wages too or thing which will raise reward fund or, reduce the impact into wages of defenders, they got too high...

Or if u dont wanna work into players wages and sistem of their calculation, their wage should be EURO based not local currency as it is now, what i mean, player x having y avq must have a wage of 1 Euro, we pay that 1 EURO in local currency, now, we have player x with y avq having a general wage of local currency, but, local currency weight different, ENGLAND vs Romanian for example , have a cost of 20% of what romanian teams have to pay for same avq team. This could be a fast solution and making it a fair sistem for the general player base.

Hope some positives changes will happen,

Adrian

I'm saying for month now....paying salaries in currency is not fair!

The rest is up to nicmo. Sadly i see romanian league weaker and weaker.

Ralf

I'm saying for month now....paying salaries in currency is not fair!

The rest is up to nicmo. Sadly i see romanian league weaker and weaker.

@Ralf paying salaries in currency can be fair if only it comes based on a calculation of wage in euro, then, no matter of local currency exchange, we same value with all countries. As an example, if a player is 80 avq, isntead to have a fixed wage of 6000 OF whatever local currency it is, it has to be 2 Euro , then, we pay that 2 EURO according with country exchange rate of local currency, it can be 1000 RON or 10000 of other local currency, it doesnt make a difference, it adds up same EURO value.

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I'd add that there are users who have information that not everyone knows and that isn't written down anywhere. Like not training certain key skills even though they're important (keeping salaries low), yet at the same time they always rank among the top players in the league and regularly participate in the Champions League. In the game engine's information, everyone should be treated equally and no one should have information that others don't know. I see teams that are weaker than others that consistently win tournaments without problems (just look at their club history), I see many inexplicable things that rarely happen in reality. MY HUMBLE OPINION AS AN IGNORANT BUT KOB LOVER.

In my opinion, everyone develops players according to their own discretion. ....

A good manager takes into account the difference between expenses and income. Just my opinion....

Tadalion

A good manager takes into account the difference between expenses and income. Just my opinion....

@Tadalion There is an UNFAIR difference between cost to run a team just due of exchange of platinum-local currency. 2 Teams with identical players will have 2 different cost to run if are in two different countries which makes no sense.

@Adrian09 lowering wages at the moment will crash economy and certainly bad idea except you intend to continue playing for fun. The prices will drop hard by any futher wages reduction. I agree too that many areas still need improvement and most important of it is advertising and bringing in new requirements. Someone suggested putting kob in play store and other options. Do you understand with more players and investment whereby economic pick and 1k and more euros go into  ucl prices and hundreds of euro in national prices would make you forget about wages burden as you can easily pay those from performing fairly in national and international competitions. 

Again it's very sad situation where you already have big team before wages are balanced. I suggest stop training and let us work together to help develop the kob community with recruiting members. I'd gladly donate small of my seasonal profit in donations to help the funding of ads. Hopefully there are plan for such coming soon:) 

Landlord

@Adrian09 lowering wages at the moment will crash economy and certainly bad idea except you intend to continue playing for fun. The prices will drop hard by any futher wages reduction. I agree too that many areas still need improvement and most important of it is advertising and bringing in new requirements. Someone suggested putting kob in play store and other options. Do you understand with more players and investment whereby economic pick and 1k and more euros go into  ucl prices and hundreds of euro in national prices would make you forget about wages burden as you can easily pay those from performing fairly in national and international competitions. 

Again it's very sad situation where you already have big team before wages are balanced. I suggest stop training and let us work together to help develop the kob community with recruiting members. I'd gladly donate small of my seasonal profit in donations to help the funding of ads. Hopefully there are plan for such coming soon:) 

@Landlordi never said wages should lower, but to be equal lol.

@Adrian09 okay I hope your complain gets fix ASAP:) 

GOOD LUCK ON COMING SEASON EVERYONE 🥳

The problem is this system...is not sustainable for top clubs.

Change is more than welcome...but I don't think is very easy for nicmo to rebalance it.

Would love see lower wages for defenders...but In same time ..this would be less prizes in leagues .

Catch 22

The people who invested started to leave the game,day by day we are less playing , new players a few.... to zero joining the game and also not so many invest, some changes must be done otherwise I don't see a good end 

What can really help solve the problem and making It fair is base the salary of a player on plat/euro costs. What also must be done in this case loser salary for players between 31.0 and 49.9 avg and increase salary a bit by players between 50.0 and 65.0 avg. Doing this solve the salary problem and gives even the possibility to train players up to 90.0 avg where it nowdays its not payable. Optional salary above 80.0 can be logeren a bit and increasing salary for players between 50.0 and 65.0 avg. Upgrading this wage suggestion is extremely recommend and fully fair for everybody.

You cannot change all of a sudden such a fundamental component in the game.

People are making their decisions. Invest, de-invest, quit, whatever based on the current rules. We all may expect that the basis concept of the game stays intact.

On the other hand, the game is expanding in expenses and income. But the balance is still there. Some win a lot, some lose a lot. I don’t understand why salaries have to increase so much as well as the prizes to win.

i think international games are prized way too much and I think this is causing mainly the current troubles 

Everything can be changed if its wanted. The suggestion i did and some other players did is very fair. And it helps a lot of people and holding salary payable.

Heracles

You cannot change all of a sudden such a fundamental component in the game.

People are making their decisions. Invest, de-invest, quit, whatever based on the current rules. We all may expect that the basis concept of the game stays intact.

On the other hand, the game is expanding in expenses and income. But the balance is still there. Some win a lot, some lose a lot. I don’t understand why salaries have to increase so much as well as the prizes to win.

i think international games are prized way too much and I think this is causing mainly the current troubles 

@Heracles Show a manager which wins " A LOT" pog :)))))))))))))))))))))

@Adrian

I understood the game is a closed financial game.

So whatever is lost by a player is won by another player.

Or is money leaking out of the game towards owners / developers?

If you look for winners, check for example the champions league bonuses.

Heracles

@Adrian

I understood the game is a closed financial game.

So whatever is lost by a player is won by another player.

Or is money leaking out of the game towards owners / developers?

If you look for winners, check for example the champions league bonuses.

@Heracles wining champions league bonuses dont cover a week of salaries for some teams

Well, the winner of CL Europe gains 191.40 euro in total this month.

Then, winning the super cup another 50 euro.

And that on top of national cup, league bonus and match wins.

Heracles, ask if you want and i can tell you how much gold net i won last month and how much gold i spend on salaries last month.

Winning CL, national cup, supercup, and second place in national league. You will be surprise about the numbers