I wanted to ask Supreme Nicmo if it was possible to increase the CC prizes by 5% from next season, bringing the CL prizes to 20% and those of the CC to 10%. It's absurd that those who win the CC earn less than those who win a national cup. In the end, it's right to have CL prizes (20%) double those of the CC (10%). I HOPE TO RECEIVE A RESPONSE FROM NICMO. Thank you.

20% and 10% its a big change. i think an increase from 5% to 7% its ok. more then that...dont see it fair.

dont forget CC competition means that you finish outside top 3 in italy from example.

I respect all players investing a lot but remember the winner of CL will earn in total more than 7600 golds

maybe we can find a way ^^ to give motivation for others who will try to be 3th in championship.

We cant expect to be the winner

I would love to feel the voice of Nicmo since it is the one who created this game. He never responds to my proposals. I never understood why.

The prize is related how much invest that people do and how much salary they have. So if you invest huge and pay huge salary also price get higher.

The current prizes are now perfectly balanced with the income and expenses of the global fund (they self balance). Changing up the % of both competitions would change the prizes for a couple of seasons (depleting it faster) and then it would balance out again getting us to where we are now...

Thanks Nicmo for the reply, but perhaps you didn't understand my request. Reduce CL premiums from 25% to 20%, Increase CC premiums from 5% to 10%. In the end, we will have CL premiums at 20% and CC at 10%.

Nicmo, did you understand what I wanted to suggest???

OK i misunderstood but now i understand.

In my opinion its not a good idea but if the majority of managers want to change it, we can...

nicmo

OK i misunderstood but now i understand.

In my opinion its not a good idea but if the majority of managers want to change it, we can...

@nicmo

personal i think Thats fine, so no need change this.

You would give oxygen to all those teams that spend a lot of money on salaries and on kob, but they can't make ends meet because the CL places are few in each country and the CC prizes are very poor. If you play in Romania, Spain, Italy it is very difficult to finish in the top 2 or 3. By increasing the CC prizes by 5%, many teams would have a better chance of surviving the expense of salaries and investments made, instead of making only 2 or 3 CL teams rich, the CC is still a European competition and the prizes are very, very poor. It is not right to give money to teams that participate in the CL with 50/60 AQ because they are located in countries that do not have competitive leagues, then you find yourself in CC teams that pay 30 euros a week in salaries and are paid paupers' prizes. I THINK IT IS NOT FAIR. Thanks Nicmo for replying to me.

With all to respect...the teams that are paying 30 euro per week and not finishing in CL spots...that means that the manager is incompetent.

Dont give the example that teams with 50-60 avq are in CL and make gold because its not true.

A team from wales or other country..with 60 avq if they dont qualify from group and they dont...they dont receive anything...only 29.25 net gold for a win and half of that for a draw ( example for this season prizes). And thet dont win to much

You brign this problem because you finish outside top 3 in the last couple of season...you didnt understand the game and the mechanics...and you are being frustated a bit.

Personal opinion.

Like i said 23% and 7% its fair from my point of view.

20%-10% is too much.

Ralf

Con todo respeto... los equipos que pagan 30 euros por semana y no terminan en puestos de la Liga de Ligas... Eso significa que el gerente es incompetente.

No pongas el ejemplo de que equipos con 50-60 de promedio están en la Liga Blanca y hacen oro porque no es cierto.

Un equipo de Gales u otro país... Con 60 de AVQ si no califican desde el grupo y no lo hacen... no reciben nada... Solo 29,25 de oro neto por una victoria y la mitad por un empate (por ejemplo, para los premios de esta temporada). Y no ganan mucho

Tú traes este problema porque acabas fuera del top 3 en las últimas temporadas... No entendías el juego ni la mecánica... Y tú estás un poco frustrado.

Opinión personal.

@Ralf 

I imagine the €30 per week wasn't an exact amount. I suppose he meant that more teams are spending money than making money.

Which isn't entirely true either. In the game, I think there are more teams making money than losing money. However, the amount of money those teams make is less than the amount of money the other teams lose.

What is true and real is that there are three main leagues that are very competitive, with few Champions League spots. It's not that there are incompetent managers; it's that there are more strong teams than Champions League places, and therefore, even if everything is done right, it's impossible for everyone to play in the Champions League.

In Italy, for example, there are at least four teams that I've seen with salaries above €20 per week, yet only three of them qualify for the Champions League. So your comment doesn't hold water.

I do think a rebalancing of the prize money between the two competitions is fair, because I believe that would further increase competitiveness. While it's true that increasing the prize money would lead to increased spending by teams over the seasons, they would eventually find themselves complaining again that the prizes weren't enough.

Stoneisland

Darías oxígeno a todos esos equipos que gastan mucho dinero en salarios y en KOB, pero no pueden llegar a fin de mes porque hay pocos puestos en la CL en cada país y los premios en los CC son muy bajos. Si juegas en Rumanía, España o Italia, es muy difícil acabar entre los dos primeros o tres puestos. Aumentando los premios de los CC en un 5%, muchos equipos tendrían más posibilidades de sobrevivir al gasto de los salarios e inversiones realizados, en lugar de hacer ricos solo a 2 o 3 equipos de la CL, el CC sigue siendo una competición europea y los premios son muy, muy pobres. No es correcto dar dinero a equipos que participan en la Liga Superior con 50/60 de AQ porque están ubicados en países que no tienen ligas competitivas, y entonces acabas en equipos de grupo comunitario que pagan 30 euros a la semana en salarios y reciben premios de pobres. CREO QUE NO ES JUSTO. Gracias, Nicmo, por responderme.

@Stoneisland 

I think your demands are fair, but you've given some unfortunate examples.

I belong to one of those leagues, Wales, with a 50/60 AVQ rating. I haven't qualified for the Champions League yet because I'm building my team from my own youth players, who are also from Wales, so I'm progressing a bit slowly...

But I think you have no idea what happens in these lower leagues...

- First... for these lower leagues to distribute any money, there have to be one or two players in those leagues spending money each season. In the case of Wales, for the league to distribute 19 gold to its champion, you need to maintain a fund of over 300 gold each season.

- Second. With a few exceptions, which I suppose there have been, I haven't seen any team from lower leagues qualify for the next stage of the Champions League. Therefore, it's not true that teams in these competitions earn money by playing in Europe. I have participated in the Continental Cup twice and achieved 1 win and 2 draws in 2 seasons....

The revenue of clubs in these minor leagues comes primarily from the win bonus, which increases each season due to the small number of teams in these leagues. This means the win fund only distributes about 10% of the total, so the fund continues to grow the following season.

-Third. The purpose of any game, and this one is no exception, is for the creator to make money. Nobody creates a business so that users can make money. As a user in this game, you can choose to earn a little money each month or spend some money to be more competitive.

I'll use my own management as an example. Despite managing my finances very well, I only earn €3 per season... and even less this season... because I was eliminated from the cup prematurely by a bot.

But these earnings aren't real... why do I only earn around €3 per season? Because, firstly, I've invested money. Every season I invest at least €10 in improving some infrastructure, and I signed some young players in my first season to try and win a good number of matches.

So, I don't really earn €3; I lose at least €7 every season. I think that's a fair price to pay for enjoying this game. A PlayStation game costs 60 euros... and nobody complains...

Now, let me give you the example of a lower-league team that starts in the bottom division and gets promoted every season, reaches the top division, manages to stay up, and is currently playing in the top division for the second consecutive season... They haven't spent a single penny, not even a single signing, not even with gold... Do you know what their accumulated balance is after almost 5 seasons? 63 gold. Do you think they'll be able to qualify for the Champions League if they continue like this?

As I said, I understand your request, and I think a rebalancing is fair to increase competitiveness or at least maintain it.

But don't talk about what's fair and what's not... if you're spending your own money, you're doing it voluntarily... nobody's forcing you. If you get tired of spending money, you can always strive for smaller objectives, or quit the game if it doesn't meet your expectations.

And by the way, the brutal depreciation that Platinum has suffered in the last four seasons shows that there are many players who don't mind spending money on the game.

Kaysade you have some valid points and i'm not gonna enter this debate. Everybody has their own opinions and its fair tonremain like that.

The problem of Stoneisland as you say Kaysade is that he is in a top league. I guess you didnt watch his team over this almost two years of KOB.

He started big, invest a lot...had top youth players that he sold couple of them ( even to me ).

Then last summer he bought everything he wanted from PSG and Rapid. He had top top squad. I repeat squad not first 11.

At one point in the fall he payed even more then me salaries.

The problem is that he doesnt understood the mechanims of the game till now.

He still has a good team and he got a all star squad till this winter. Ok he had bad luck you can say and didnt qualify too much in CL, ( i dont agree with this, but lets say for the sake of argument ). Then why he didnt run the CC?? With his squad over the seasons he need it to win 75% of the time of playing CC.

Check how many times SCOG won CC. Shaow had and has a good team, not top 5 squad from KOB, but in my opinion he over achieve the results with his squad. Why is that? Because in my opinion shaow is a top manager in KOB. 

So...thats why i say Stone is trying to change things out of frustation.

Prizes are already small.enough in CL.

I m not saying they shouldn't be bigger in CC, but I don't think cutting CL even more is a solution. 

Reality of CL? You can play semis and still chip in 20-30€ to cover monthly expenses.

Indeed few may make some small or more profit depending how far they go, but in my opinion definitely CL fund is not in the position to be chopped even more.

nicmo

OK i misunderstood but now i understand.

In my opinion its not a good idea but if the majority of managers want to change it, we can...

@nicmo if you are open to changing the prizes, I suggest trying to use data from the recent seasons to decide how to change them. It could be positive, as long as it doesn't create conflicts of interest... don't forget we had teams giving up a position to play CC instead of CL in Italy in the first seasons XD

For sure, a team should have a much higher expected income in CL than in CC (I would say double, or at least 50% more), because you can choose to lose a few matches to play CC instead of CL, but you can't do the opposite. And a game where it's convenient to lose matches on purpose is not designed well...

That said, there is the final result of each team in their history, so I suggest a way to check the expected income from CC and CL: pick only the clubs that reached the CC knockouts at least once in the recent seasons (I would say 16 to 20, not too much in the past, otherwise their level could have changed too much).
If they also played CL in those seasons, compare how much they would have earned in both competitions based on this season's prizes (let's neglect the victory bonuses and ticket prizes, as they are low and can't be inferred by the history):
 

If the clubs that played both competitions recently earn more than double when they play CL, then you may consider moving a share from CL prize to CC to make the ratio drop to 2.
If they earn less than double when they play CL, then move money from CC to CL to bring the ratio to 2.

If you want to change, this could be a way to adjust the prizes in a safe way without creating conflicts of interest.
Otherwise, just leave it like this because changing without looking at the previous data can be very dangerous... the difference in level between the leagues is not a real problem because the clubs can change nation during the season break, and it's not worth the risk of having people lose on purpose to play CC

Ration 2 to 1 is crazy maridiba. You will have people that will consider playing CC because its better then CL from gold pov

Ralf

Ration 2 to 1 is crazy maridiba. You will have people that will consider playing CC because its better then CL from gold pov

@Ralf I'm not saying ratio 2 to 1 for the same position, but for the same club.

For example, the last CC winner also played CL recently and never reached the 1/4 Final, so the ratio CL/CC for him is even lower than 1... which would result in lowering the CC prizes a lot, if it's the same for everyone

Ohh. Advance mathematics :)) ok then. 

But when Romania have it 3 spots for CL was no problem!?

10+ @shaow

Shaow

But when Romania have it 3 spots for CL was no problem!?

@Shaow for what I see, the current ratio of 5:1 is good; it should be barely enough to make it worth fighting to qualify for CL.

If nicmo wants to verify using the data, which was impossible at the beginning, I'm not against the idea. But I don't expect the results to be much different from what we currently have

@Ralf ... I think we're all a little frustrated here, given that Maridiba is always the same old Maridiba, winning against everything and everyone with his LUCKY MAGIC and a POOR team, and NO ONE is asking WHY. But anyway, my message was referring to the 5% CC. If it's possible to do it well, then it doesn't matter. I just thought that those who participate in a European cup could win more money than a simple national cup, as in reality. Anyway, thanks anyway for all your interest.

I played a lot of CC with low rewards,but I didn't came to complain and I haved big amount of salary then what I have now.

Off course I'm not against changes,after all it is equal for everyone, but I'm just saying that I played CC and I gained more gold from the Romanian cup, CC for me was more a training field gaining experience for young players and the trophy off course,but rewards in CC it was low always.

@Stoneisland i never ask why Maridiba is winning because i have a valid explination. Good for him to win...5-6 seasons ago he where trying to overcame Palermo, Liverpool, Me etc. And he did it.

The explination is from the game of course.

Only some players from Italy are talking about cheating the game etc...of course now when they dont winning anymore:))

Dont you worry..keep in mind what i write here now. Lets talk about Maridiba when the DC Inf will retire and lets see if then you will still say that he is cheating:)

My friends, it's not about money or personal gain. If you see, I'm the only one of the big teams who hasn't confirmed my identity for withdrawing money from KoB. I've always said that whatever I invest or earn on KoB will always remain in the game itself, it will always be like this. I think it's fair that CL prizes are double the CC, but that 25% for CL and only 5% for CC is not fair, the prizes are very low for a EUROPEAN competition. It should be noted that CL prizes are also determined by the spending of many teams that play in CC, which is why it's fair to have CL prizes at 20% and CC prizes at 10%. In the end, 20% CL would be double the 10% of CC. 5% is too much, way too low. I'm not saying this because I'm sad or bullshit, but just so that participating in a European competition has bigger prizes. That's all. In any case, I'm very happy with your interest in this discussion. Thanks to EVERYONE.

@ralf meanwhile I didn't say that Maridiba is cheating. Then you talk to me so much about tactics, that I don't understand anything about KoB and then it all boils down to a DC Inf, it would be an insult to Nicmo if all of KoB's tactical play was decided by a DC Inf. It would be a failure if the entire KoB game engine was decided by a DC Inf. I think the one who doesn't understand anything here is you. In the end, the only teams that have REALLY made money on KoB are: PELIGNO and PALERMO. Then all the Romanian teams are in net losses, you have always loaded up on money and you're here always saying the same things. At the beginning you spent 10 thousand euros each on senseless transfer campaigns, raising prices for player purchases without any managerial logic. Then you complained that the salaries were high and Nicmo accommodated you, YOU HAVE ALWAYS COMPLAINED but you have never had efficient management and are always in the red. Now I'm talking about something else and I'd just focus on what I suggest in this post. FOR ME, THE 5% PRIZE ON CC IS A FAILURE. IF NICMO WANTS TO CHANGE IT, THAT'S GREAT. IF IT CAN'T BE DONE, I STILL LOVE YOU. I WILL NEVER STOP PLAYING ON KOB, BECAUSE, AS I'VE ALWAYS SAID, KOB IS CURRENTLY THE BEST AND ONLY ONLINE FOOTBALL MANAGEMENT GAME WITH REAL MONEY. Have a good evening everyone.

And now the real Stoneisland human have show the true face.

Thats more like it. Glad to have you back.

You never said anything about Maridiba is cheating? You really want to have people post the PM's and the whats app? To make you look like a liar?

Second...let me say to you :) i invest under 5k euro. And net minus is around 3k.

Others are on profit because they bought shares...and sold them and make 2k profit and with that money they make the teams. You really want me to continue?

In fact you from the start where outside the game..because you are limited.

You talk about fair? Win something for the name of god...and then you can have acces to big prizes.

Wtf you know about management in KOB? When you paid salaries as me...and never succed to run over the CC competition that you played that much time and won only one time

Stop talking about others...when you are playing like a blind handicap person with only one leg and no vision

@ralf, as always, you want to make a fuss. You said Maridiba wins because she has a DC Inf :-) It makes me laugh. If this were true, it would truly be a FAILURE for Kob. Don't take it personally if you've always been in the red and that managerially you're a FAILURE. Don't change the subject. Focus on the 5% DC. To become a great MANAGER, I recommend you buy a GREAT CALCULATOR. I love you, brother.

Stoneisland

@ralf, as always, you want to make a fuss. You said Maridiba wins because she has a DC Inf :-) It makes me laugh. If this were true, it would truly be a FAILURE for Kob. Don't take it personally if you've always been in the red and that managerially you're a FAILURE. Don't change the subject. Focus on the 5% DC. To become a great MANAGER, I recommend you buy a GREAT CALCULATOR. I love you, brother.

@Stoneisland

@ralf, as always, you want to make a fuss. You said Maridiba wins because she has a DC Inf :-) It makes me laugh. If this were true, it would truly be a FAILURE for Kob. Don't take it personally if you've always been in the red and that managerially you're a FAILURE. Don't change the subject. Focus on the 5% CC. To become a great MANAGER, I recommend you buy a GREAT CALCULATOR. I love you, brother.

As i said you are limited in KOb. Thats why you invest around 2250 euros and have this results.

Pay attention. When more teams are close as value anything can make a difference. And having a captain that give around 5-6-7% more to the whole team...and the opponents to be at -5% from you...that little thing can make the difference.

Now you get genius? Or i need to make a drawing?

12.6% captain bonus Maridiba. I have 7.5% bonus. From the start of the game his team have a little more skills point if you say that both teams are close in value. Just an example

Know you understand genius what i'm talking and why i said the DC Inf comment?

.

I will end the debate with you in this topic...to let others express their opinions about the topic.

But let say to know. You are a lost cause. To bad we will loose you in 3-4 months...i know for sure italiens players where happy with your gold in budget:)

Have a nice day

What the fuck are you talking about? You don't even know what you're talking about. Maridiba won even when he had a team with 70 AQ, look when he won the first CL he beat your team and many others with much higher AQ. You're talking nonsense and I repeat you want to divert the discussion to something else. If you're a loser having spent more than 10 thousand euros and are always in the red loading up on money it's not your fault, focus on the art, management games are not for you. Now if you want to have Nicmo close the post because you want to divert the discussion, go ahead, FOCUS ON THE INITIAL DISCUSSION, CHANGE THE 5% CC. If you want to talk only about this, then change the post and create another. Thanks

Go go and snore some coke to ease up the pain my friend:)))

As i said...limited as f...k.  player that plays KOB almost from the start and still talking and reffering about the avq to compare teams. Brainless

Btw...you are mad or why you wrote with Caps? :)

When I sold you Troise for 329 euros and you and your friends Man Utd, PSG, FC Universitatea Craiova spent absurd prices to buy players for paltry prizes, in Italy you know what we said, that you were CHICKENS :-). Most of the Romanian teams listed are all BANKRUPT, the only CHICKEN who is still active is you. YOU SMINE LESS COCAINE AND BUY A NICE CALCULATOR, because up until now even if you won the CL you are DEEP IN THE RED and managerially FAILED. Now focus on the initial discussion. I love you brother... Thanks

I understand you feel mad that other can spend endless money just for playing. Calm down...we Romanians have a lot of money to spend.dont you worry. The firm is doing well, the economy is doing well...the clients are many. Everything is good mate.

I'm happy for you, but you're still a FAILURE, A MANAGERIAL CHICKEN IN DEEP RED. :-)

If i'm a chicken..what are you?

For investing around 2250 euros and be at the level you are? :)

Be careful not to lose the match at 1/8 of the CL, then you will be forced to upload more money to pay the salaries and further increase your managerial failure.

:))) i guess the army taught you well. You know basic math :)))

Have a nice day

When a manager fails to achieve his objectives, he must change management and compensate for the losses. What you do is not a good management strategy, but a FAILING strategy that is always at a loss financially speaking. I missed my objectives and changed my management strategy. Last year, reaching the CC final and finishing 5th in Italy, my company achieved a positive balance. That's what you never managed in 21 seasons of Kob, winning CL titles. This is the difference between a good manager and a failed manager like you.

:)))))))

Your predictions as a Kob expert :-) are: 1) Maridipa will lose the DC Inf as soon as she retires. 2) In three months my company will FAIL :-). LET'S SEE WHICH OF YOUR TWO BIG PREDICTIONS WILL BE TRUE. For me, neither of them (note this prediction of mine). Hello Red Chicken

Its bad sport to be jealous on others finances. Just because i dont have a monthly fix income from the army...and i have no limits like you.

Calm down. You spend almost half of what i spend i had almost 0 results...and no future..as you will not have a team in 4 months. ( 1 star players doesnt count )

Stoneisland

Your predictions as a Kob expert :-) are: 1) Maridipa will lose the DC Inf as soon as she retires. 2) In three months my company will FAIL :-). LET'S SEE WHICH OF YOUR TWO BIG PREDICTIONS WILL BE TRUE. For me, neither of them (note this prediction of mine). Hello Red Chicken

@Stoneisland you want another prediction? Lets see if i'm right here. You have no education...math is like kriptonite to superman for you, italian gramar the same as i saw....you are just an " Yes sir, right the way sir! "

Don't worry, brother, whoever told you I'm in the army was wrong. Anyway, I'll surprise you with fireworks. Having financial resources doesn't mean you're a GREAT MANAGER; often, with FAILED results like yours, it means you're a real SHEEP / RED CHICKEN.

You're finally getting to your goal. Getting this post closed because you're a cocaine addict.

Having financial..can give me joy to play games like KOB:)

For being a good manager..thats a thing i only care in the real world.

Here i'm playing a game.

Seems like you forgot that KOB is a game. Frustation frustation :)))

You're right about everything. :-) I don't understand this desire of yours to be the best. Maybe you had a bad childhood -:), Poor thing.

Stoneisland

You're finally getting to your goal. Getting this post closed because you're a cocaine addict.

@Stoneisland :))))))  at least you stop using the CAPSLOCK. That means you are chill:))

Stoneisland

You're right about everything. :-) I don't understand this desire of yours to be the best. Maybe you had a bad childhood -:), Poor thing.

@Stoneisland :) i wish my childhood to everybody. Happy one

Stoneisland

Don't worry, brother, whoever told you I'm in the army was wrong. Anyway, I'll surprise you with fireworks. Having financial resources doesn't mean you're a GREAT MANAGER; often, with FAILED results like yours, it means you're a real SHEEP / RED CHICKEN.

@Stoneisland so your not a helicopter pilot? :))) so i guess your not from a rich family neither no? :)))

Bro...stop lying :)))

Mine is a beautiful job, what would yours be??? If you have a JOB, that is.

Hello, I come with another proposal that I have already talked about!!! This way the prize grid can also be modified ;-) To update the European Cups to play like in the real system and not like the former European competition system, I think it would be much more interesting and this way the prize grid could also be modified!!!

Nick, you want to hurt yourself, now Ralf is starting to attack you like there's no tomorrow. Only he is a great manager :-) and he makes good game proposals.

Stoneisland

Mine is a beautiful job, what would yours be??? If you have a JOB, that is.

@Stoneisland i'm an engeneer that has his own small firm :)

Stoneisland

Nick, you want to hurt yourself, now Ralf is starting to attack you like there's no tomorrow. Only he is a great manager :-) and he makes good game proposals.

@Stoneisland actually i like the new format from real world and what nick is proposing.

But i know Nicmo is not a fan of that

I think we should stick to topic, without personal accusation and mocking.

Initial suggestion is to increase percentage of budget for CC. In my opinion 5:1 like is now is little bit too much difference, but on end 2:1 is little bit too less, I like more idea about to increase by 2%, means 23% compared to 7%, and that is somehow similar as budget in real life, EU champion league have approx 3.5 times bigger price fund.

Stoneisland

@Ralf ... Creo que todos estamos un poco frustrados aquí, dado que Maridiba siempre es el mismo Maridiba de siempre, ganando contra todo y todos con su MAGIA DE LA SUERTE y un equipo POBRE, y NADIE pregunta POR QUÉ. Pero bueno, mi mensaje se refería al 5% de CC. Si es posible hacerlo bien, entonces no importa. Simplemente pensaba que quienes participan en una copa de Europa podrían ganar más dinero que en una simple copa nacional, como en la realidad. En fin, gracias igualmente por todo vuestro interés.

@Stoneisland 

Let me give you a real-life example. In Spain, the Spanish Super Cup is played by only 4 teams, a tournament with just 3 matches: 2 semifinals and 1 final. The total prize money is 51 million euros. The Conference League, UEFA's new competition, has 36 teams and 216 matches played in the league phase alone. The total prize money distributed by UEFA is 198 million euros.

More real-life examples: the Europa League has 565 million euros, and the Champions League has 2,467 million. That's a ratio of slightly more than 4 to 1 compared to the equivalent of our KOB competitions.

As for why there are more prizes in national cups than in the Conference League... the answer is simple: that only happens in a few leagues, and it's proportional to the gold investment in those leagues.

You can change countries and come to Wales... our cup gives a little over 62 gold to the champion xDDD.

Just qualifying for the round of 1/8 of CC doubles the cup prize xDD.

And these words are no longer just for you, they are for the entire community.

I think KOB is more than just Romania, Spain, and Italy.

Those three leagues really only have four, five, or six exceptional teams, which don't represent the KOB community. Some people have chosen to play in other leagues, each for different reasons. For example, in any football game, if there's a Welsh league, I always play in Wales.

There are 1445 players in KOB, of which 545 are in the three major leagues. And yet, despite the huge difference between those three leagues and the rest... despite having a high percentage of the game's oldest players, despite having several of the players who invested the most money in the game, to this day, those three leagues only account for 45% of the money.

And given that we are 900 players in "minor leagues" and represent a majority in the game and 55% of the game's money, it would be appreciated if we were taken into account, and not all discussions focused on the 3 major leagues and the problems of maintaining squads of just a few players.

Communities, especially in online games, grow and improve when the entire community is taken into account, not just a few.

@Kasyade You made a good speech. Well done, I like it.