Are changes planned for the youth center, specifically, for player registration? Because the current system is a disaster.

At this point I prefer old system 😃

The tutor is fine. Amount of youth is also fine in my opinion.

Xander

Are changes planned for the youth center, specifically, for player registration? Because the current system is a disaster.

@Xander why is it a disaster?

@Thuru yes those are good feature of the youth that will remain or improve later on but the main challenge currently is the way the youth signing works. ther lower avq in youth players spawn is nope for me and it's quiet noticeable that most of the good aq in youth spawn are being hire as 1 star.. 

For an example since the you system got changed into this I've only signed once from the youth but before then I use to sign couple of players from youth and that surely contribute to prizes. I Wonder if number of youth player signing is better than the older version. I know the lack of signing in youth is affected by many other factors but in my own experience the current youth system is not a great replacement for the older system :) 

In my opinion, there are 2 problems with youth center, 1. No benefit to sign youth from your country. Some small benefit will be good, for example small boost in training speed let's say 0.2 per day. 2. Same starting stats if you sign 5* or 1* , it will be better that youth spawn with predefined stars, and higher stars has average better stats

Still current youth is much better than before, when it was completely random, just I will say needs small tweaking

Fletcher90

In my opinion, there are 2 problems with youth center, 1. No benefit to sign youth from your country. Some small benefit will be good, for example small boost in training speed let's say 0.2 per day. 2. Same starting stats if you sign 5* or 1* , it will be better that youth spawn with predefined stars, and higher stars has average better stats

@Fletcher90, the starting stats are already different because you can distribute 3 additional points for each star

hello nicmo game is good neded litle changes in litle country in slovenia ;) why not benjamin tramsfer in manchester united🇸🇮

for me, i prefer the new system in youth center, not totally random, and lower AVG in youth will give more benefit for player with higher star and it's fair

Everyone entitled to their own opinions. As far as I know, anything less than 50 avq belonging in trash. Not even in fifa worst play youth center spawn avq bellow 50 rating players.  This is far from realistic and if you think I'm wrong Google it up and check "fifa youth players rating standard" it's a known fact that it's somwhere between 50-60 rating and a potential of 70 for outside europen top 5. 81 to 90 potential for European youth players .. No player should be that weak and scouting would recommend him for a club to hire him into it youth center.. There just some certain thing about football that can't be overlook even in simulation. 

Landlord

Everyone entitled to their own opinions. As far as I know, anything less than 50 avq belonging in trash. Not even in fifa worst play youth center spawn avq bellow 50 rating players.  This is far from realistic and if you think I'm wrong Google it up and check "fifa youth players rating standard" it's a known fact that it's somwhere between 50-60 rating and a potential of 70 for outside europen top 5. 81 to 90 potential for European youth players .. No player should be that weak and scouting would recommend him for a club to hire him into it youth center.. There just some certain thing about football that can't be overlook even in simulation. 

@Landlord

so long youth are all under 50 avg when pulling, but not use the training points, its fine becouse its for everybody. However its during longer to have a acceptable player in basic. A player must be ready if its 20 year and avg atleast 62+ avg. For people it dont care if they sit in a weak country, but it is in a strong country example italy and romania

@Thuru

Don't matter which country players shouldn't have less than 50 avq. It's the minimum rating requires to be qualified to make an entry into a club youth academy. Club with level 5 training facilities and coach will accelerate training over the mangers staying on default. There is always going to be the gap in investors and those playing for free. Hiring better potential 3,4,5 stars will even be futher out of reach for non investor anytime soon into the game.

On average player should be averaging in 60 -65avq in 20s. 5 stars should be averaging 70-80 in early 20s depending on facilities and coach and slowly pushing it ability to 85 to 90 through the rest of his career. What would it take from the game? Don't high aq generate better revenue through wages? Anyone who feel the progress is going to fast can halt the training of the player or train the secondary skills to slow the development. Instead the bad aq spawn I've seen in current system without booster is taking most players average in prime way backward than even the earlier seasons. Anyways it's nothing serious as long everyone els already prefer the current youth system 😃

@Landlord

As you know salary is a big problem. Teams hold their players maximum arround 80, maybe even less. A player player with 90 avg or higher is not payable. So on that must be something done. I sit arround the maximum salary what i can hold, not counted looting youth pulled, what also is needed to replace old players with Some younger.

@Thuru

But you can decide not to train the players? 😄

Landlord

Everyone entitled to their own opinions. As far as I know, anything less than 50 avq belonging in trash. Not even in fifa worst play youth center spawn avq bellow 50 rating players.  This is far from realistic and if you think I'm wrong Google it up and check "fifa youth players rating standard" it's a known fact that it's somwhere between 50-60 rating and a potential of 70 for outside europen top 5. 81 to 90 potential for European youth players .. No player should be that weak and scouting would recommend him for a club to hire him into it youth center.. There just some certain thing about football that can't be overlook even in simulation. 

@Landlord are you talking about the EA Sports game? What does FIFA have to do with a football manager game? That's a football simulator... In those cases, you can flatten the skills as much as you want, because the user directs the players on the pitch; the management part is irrelevant. Skills count, but you can even play with two teams with players at 99 average, and the game still makes sense.

What happens in a football manager game if the top teams can have players with all the relevant skills for their position close to the maximum? Very little differentiation, there's no need to prioritize skills, and tactical orders are pointless, since players have no weaknesses. Matches would be decided completely randomly, like a lottery... the dumbest management game ever!

@maridiba 

Name a football manager game  more accurate in redefine player details as EA sport? again it has club master and matches can be simulate in typical football manager game window and instructions needles to use joystick 🎮

And also remembered EA sport fifa is in real term and conditions with fifa and fifa rules and regulations applies on the game. And in my suggestion I never mention players being able to develop faster when approaching 90+ as even real fifa cards no player easy get past 91 rating so yes those training when players are approaching 90 skill has to slow down and 95 to 99 should take forever except in rere case where player spawn with 70 avq which nimco will never allowed xd

 why do you think setting the minimum player rating at 50 is a bad idea? Plus how many ff you player you'd willingly train to 90 considering the wages and the current financial flow in the game will you even do it if you can? 😃

In my idea if there is player will to build a club of 99 all players and is working towards it shouldn't be by the system that make it impossible. Many player currently never made it to 80 before past their prime and it development slow down that he can barely made it to 85 rating. If someone want to go super top club  regardless the cost why not? Does it not help the economic of the game?

nicmo

Xander

Are changes planned for the youth center, specifically, for player registration? Because the current system is a disaster.

@Xander why is it a disaster?

@nicmo It's not that it's a disaster per se because, as they say, it's not as random as the previous system, but as Landlord mentions, the problem is the AVQ of the youth player. They are very low, and it is known that improving that AVQ is very slow. Maybe that doesn't have much relevance in matches, but it is related to skills, and a low AVQ generally means low skills, which would also cause no one to buy it on the market. For example, right now in Spain there is a youth center back with 41 AVQ and who costs 18 gold for my youth center. Do you think anyone would buy that player from me to earn some Platinum in return? I agree with Landlord that at least for the level 1 youth center, an AVQ of 50 should be set so that those of us who have not been able to improve our youth center have a chance to compete in matches.

@Landlord FIFA can be a beautiful football simulator, but please don't compare its career mode to a football manager game... it's blasphemy XD

Jokes aside, you are neglecting an important detail: in KOB, the money spent on wages is not burnt, but it goes almost entirely to the federation funds. My players' wages would be crazy in your League, but easily sustainable in mine because of the higher rewards, and I don't feel the need to slow down the training at all.

As a consequence, if enough teams are training top players and paying huge salaries in a League, the prizes grow accordingly and allow for pushing further. And then, they could potentially afford to pay for almost "perfect" players as well, if the level of the League is high enough... but that would be a random League! It's not a realistic scenario with the current user base, but the system must be scalable to avoid future drastic changes.

That's why starting level and training speed can't be too high...

@maridiba 🤣🤣🤣

OK you have a point though. Hopefully the long waited for tutorial come into an update soon and through the explanation new players should be caution that training like freak can bankrupt a club and stress on a bit the importance of balancing club finances and expenses as it's a real challenge for managers and as it should be expected of a football manager game with real money :)