Minecodersam 167 posts 7 months old |
on 18-09-2024 23:34:02 (4 months ago) with national teams we could do like a world cup and the prizes will be divided depending who possess the players.. for energy, xp and other things, i let nicmo to decide |
Ryoichi123 18 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 00:53:42 (4 months ago) World cup fund = its take 5% from every country budget.. :)) +1 |
Deathsword 10 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 00:56:18 (4 months ago) +1 |
OjoKatamso 5 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 05:06:14 (4 months ago) I think it's better if the prize goes into the Country Fund, so the prize for the league can increase World Cup Fund = Global Fund |
lysybandyta 176 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 07:33:02 (4 months ago) National funds are so small already so it would be better to not move them to any contest first it is need to choose the national manager, next set the rules about number of players... many things to do before ;) |
maridiba 148 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 08:58:13 (4 months ago) The prizes can't be divided between the owners of the players because there must be a manager for the national team, and there is an obvious conflict of interests. I would rather send the prizes to the national funds, to avoid unpleasant situations |
Minecodersam 167 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 09:20:43 (4 months ago) no needed the manager, can there be without, just like the bots |
lysybandyta 176 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 09:34:12 (4 months ago) Bots contest? Yaaaaayyyy... No. That's nonsense edited on 19-09-2024 09:34:52 (1 times)
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Adrian09 93 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 09:45:21 (4 months ago) Personally, dont think there is needed a manager, all national teams can play under same tactic, best qualiry players will win. As for reward, having the prize divided to each manager who posseses the players is a great idea. It will also generate some interest into aquiring top end players for the national team he decides to play for, having an extra income will also give reasons to roll some youths just to get good players for national league. If funds go to national league dont see reasons why someone would tryhard to roll for youths and generate big players for his own country when others hundreds of manager will just "milk" his hard work(investment) when can just buy from market the good picks existent. edited on 19-09-2024 09:46:57 (1 times)
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maridiba 148 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 10:35:36 (4 months ago) Adrian you really don't see reasons why someone should try to get good players? Winning competition prizes with the club maybe? XD There could be an election between National Team manager candidates, and all the verified users from the League (not the Nation) can vote. The winner doesn't receive economic benefits from the role and the money won from the national teams goes to the National Funds. No conflicts of interest at all, if the voters choose a good manager the National Fund can receive more money and they benefit from this. The coach is interested in using the best players because his club also benefits from increased prizes. Nobody would be interested in bothering the coach to include their players in the lineup since there is nothing to earn from this. It works this way in other football manager games, it should work well here. This is a football game, you are supposed to win games to earn prizes, not just own expensive players. If you own good players and you are good at managing them, you will earn money by winning matches anyway |
Adrian09 93 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 10:40:36 (4 months ago) @maridiba" Adrian you really don't see reasons why someone should try to get good players?" , i see why someone should get good players the only point is that good players can be bought from someone else isntead of going long and slowly way by spawning youths and training. There needs to be added this national team to work close to what people suggested just to increase this " youth pull". otherwise, to be competitive at this moment means just to buy curent best players and so on, exchanging players from upset people to new ones. And having election is worst thing possible in game, there will never be rewarded the " best manager" , votes will go to someone with most friends, always. And apart that, in some countries, there are 1-2 people who pulled some youths, decent to play in a national team, why his investment and work should just become a gift to whole national competition through national bonuses where people can farm it with alts? Makes no sense to me. Of course, you will say winning competiton with the club will make the investment to worth, but sadly, even if 100 people invest heavily, there will be a single UCL winner, so, there is needed a diversity of income to keep things rolling. edited on 19-09-2024 10:52:41 (3 times)
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maridiba 148 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 11:06:56 (4 months ago) It doesn't matter if you buy players from the youth center or from the market. If most people choose to buy from the youth center, it will become convenient to buy from the market. Otherwise, it's the opposite... offer and demand will always find a balance no matter what, but that is not related to the National Team. Who cares where the National Team players come from? Furthermore, if money from the World Cup goes to the National Funds instead of the players' owners, there will be even more interest in pulling youths from the youth center and selling them abroad, so that also foreign managers will train them instead of locals. Extreme example: if there was a country where managers buy lots of youths and sell them abroad, even the better ones, there would be almost no need to buy from the youth center from foreign managers and that country would have the best national team. The users who pulled and sold youths would benefit from the world cup prizes. If you pay the players' owners, that money would still go abroad, with the country winning the title but no money even if they pulled the best players. Another solution to increase the interest in pulling youths would be introducing a little percentage for the original club when selling players, along with the tax to partners fund. But it must remain a football manager game, it should be based on users' skills: who wins gains money. Nobody is forcing users to deposit money... following your logic UEFA should have invented some weird prizes to reward PSG for wasting lots of money and owning Messi, Neymar and Mbappe even if they were kicked out from CL. edited on 19-09-2024 12:01:55 (3 times)
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Alin 116 posts 8 months old |
on 19-09-2024 12:24:08 (4 months ago) + on @maridiba s idea of funds going to local federation.
Is best way of awarding competitive teams and in this way everyone backs the national manager because interests are aligned. |
Alin 116 posts 8 months old |
on 19-09-2024 12:24:41 (4 months ago) You send best lad out, for maximum return. Lol |
Thuru 198 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 15:46:28 (4 months ago) No need for this, anyway it may no costs of players and fed funds and other funds |
nicmo 277 posts 3 years old |
on 19-09-2024 17:03:50 (4 months ago) you guys keep suggesting where the prizes go but where do they come from? global fund? |
maridiba 148 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 17:58:57 (4 months ago) Global funds could be an option. Something like a fixed amount from the global fund of each continent every 4 seasons? Anyway, there are many updates with higher priority, in my opinion. A World Cup seems premature now, I would rather wait to have a high number of active verified users in all the countries to have meaningful elections. And meanwhile, the current youths would have time to reach their potential edited on 19-09-2024 21:00:07 (1 times)
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b1c10 73 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 20:48:43 (4 months ago) I don't know how this will be done, I believe that the national team should be selected by the system as it is today. Regarding the election of the national team coach, I believe that it should occur normally, since there is no way to favor x y z in the choice of the player, since there is no individual call-up. It would be interesting for the national team coach to suggest to his directors an internal vote on how it should be, like a list of 3 tactics to be voted on in general, this internally in the country itself. And the national team coach receives the final result of the list of most voted tactics and must choose one of the 3 tactics. |
Minecodersam 167 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 21:05:50 (4 months ago) @maridiba it's not an high priority but nicmo didn't create nationals for nothing, he should do something with them, and i suggested a world cup edited on 19-09-2024 21:06:16 (1 times)
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lysybandyta 176 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 23:17:31 (4 months ago) @Minecodersam WC is in roadmap, that's why long time ago such tab 'nationals' exist. nothing big, it doesnt need to be implemented NOW.
Big plus for the maridiba's idea. I also support voting idea for the coach of national team. Or do something like ranking - the more matches manager wins, the more points he gets. After 4 seasons the best one becomes a coach. |
Minecodersam 167 posts 7 months old |
on 19-09-2024 23:19:51 (4 months ago) lysybandyta |
Shaow 27 posts 7 months old |
on 20-09-2024 00:31:41 (4 months ago) 100% on what maridiba suggest. Also the manager who will be elected,him will select the players he thinks,he need for national team and maybe also a limited of a maximum number per team must be implemented for not having problems with some managers who will get all his players on the national team, for example 2-3 per team or maximum 4. Ideas are a lot, from all of them we must choose the best to keep the game fun and playable for everyone.
edited on 20-09-2024 00:32:41 (1 times)
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OjoKatamso 5 posts 7 months old |
on 20-09-2024 01:55:00 (4 months ago) Before that, we need a federation in each country that will manage the national team, such as choosing the national team manager, etc. |
maridiba 148 posts 7 months old |
on 20-09-2024 08:49:09 (4 months ago) @OjoKatamso why should there be a need for a federation board in each country? To choose the manager it's easier to ask the verified users from the federation to vote for one of the candidates. A federation board would be useless and dangerous. As long as there are no advantages or damages for single users (experience or injuries to the players, money to the NT manager or players' owner) the election should be more or less fine because nobody has personal interests. It's in the interests of the users to select a capable manager, because that increases the probability of having higher prizes after the World Cup edited on 20-09-2024 08:53:29 (1 times)
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Major117 17 posts 7 months old |
on 20-09-2024 12:58:09 (4 months ago) I believe that 10% of the money should come from the global fund, and the distribution of prizes would be in the same way as the Champions League, with 40% going to the country and 40% to the global fund, 20% to managers with players in the national team. |