Hi all

I think there is kind of unfairness in relegation games.

Nrs 11-12 have a huge minus in TM where nr 3 has no minus TM.

Shouldn’t this be changed ?

Seems pretty realistic tbh.

You can always raise your TM a bit by doing a press conference. 

Heracles

Hi all

I think there is kind of unfairness in relegation games.

Nrs 11-12 have a huge minus in TM where nr 3 has no minus TM.

Shouldn’t this be changed ?

@Heracles I don't get it. How are the playoffs different from the other competitions? What about the National Cup or even continental competitions? If that's unfair, it would also be unfair when the first of the ranking plays against the relegation-zone teams...

Previous results influence the confidence of the players; it seems realistic to me

@Maridiba

This is because it is a confrontation of A11 and A12 against B3. Their TM rating has a big minus of -6 or even worse, while the B3 team has no TM minus. This is caused by their competition that has ended. Now they play against each other and one team has minus 6 or so and the other zero. The B team has 6 points in favor and has better chances to promotion although it might be much weaker. Result : not the strongest or smartest wins. The A team has a big handicap.

in national cup the effect is almost none.

in continental competitions I don’t know.

On cup and CL/CC the effect is zero or very less. So yes in this case its unfair. Buying press dont put all TM alway.

The effect is the same in every competition, 1 missing point of morale always gives 0.3% penalty.

Should we also forbid the games between the first teams of the ranking and the teams in relegation zone in the national league? That's ridiculous...

Your answer is ridiculous. Apparently you have not read the issue.

@Heracles, for me, is normal that Team who loses many matches has lower morale, than team who finished 3rd in League and won much more matches, and that is also reflected in relegation games.

Also, from perspective of game is better like this as give more opportunity to promote if you invest and build good team and not let teams that is in upper league to stagnate with team quality

Heracles

Your answer is ridiculous. Apparently you have not read the issue.

 

@Heracles there is not much to read, you are basically just saying it's unfair because the 11th has less morale than the 3rd. And? Is that supposed to be an issue? And why should that be an issue only for the playoffs?

What happens when the 11th plays the league matches against the best teams of his league in the last rounds? Is that also unfair? The penalty is the same...

They have more morale because they earned it by winning games; it's realistic and happens in most football games. I don't see exploits, conflicts of interest, logical faults or any apparent reason to treat league games and playoff games differently. What's the issue?

Heracles

Hi all

I think there is kind of unfairness in relegation games.

Nrs 11-12 have a huge minus in TM where nr 3 has no minus TM.

Shouldn’t this be changed ?

@Heracles personally, i dont see any issues. The team morale comes based on team performance and manager decisions.

First, playing in league 1 compared league 2 comes with a way higher rewards fund, that puts the 3rd team of league 2 in a big disavantage , which mostly means, if osmoene wants to build a strong team for league 1, he has to do from lower leagues which means, he does at a higher cost.

Second, why the game should not reward the better team which managed to win more games compared with the one who lost? There is press release which helps a bit, who is wise, will use this at the right time, it happens even now in same league, some managers manage to hold this as an advantage for the start of the season while others use it for the end of seasons to win few more points and keep them on the desired placed. 

In my opinion, your idea aint improving games , it just will help in an unfair way teams from league 1 to stay in league 1 enjoying a better reward sistem while some teams from league 2 actually trying to get there but due of this rule, their odds are reduced. 

Side note: This aplies to all leagues, it was just an example league 1 vs 2, but same aplies league 2vs league 3 and so on.