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Recruiter tax suggestion

Boebes5 objava1 godina godina

This week I paid nearly more to my recruiter than the salaries of my players and coaches combined.

The amount (percentage) of the recruitertax is completely off in this game. It's seems to be just a money Cow for rich Recruiters without any in game benefits for the poor Recruits.

Do not misunderstand. The recruiter aspect is in my opinion a great idea to make this fun game Grow even bigger.

But the taxpercentage should be halved and have a maximum period of let's say, 3 seasons. As well as a maximum number of Recruits to manage. So it stays fun for Recruits as well. So they don't abandon the game later on because the difference in income between players is getting way too big for a level playing field.

A recruiter should be obliged to help his Recruit (what's in a name...) and get him or her going with tactical tips, game strategy etc. Should the recruiter fail to do this, he looses his income from this recruit.

If this game wants to grow on a moral level too, this elephant in the Room must be taken into account.

Anyone?

uređeno dana · 8 puta

Turk18420 objava5 mjeseci godina

I understand your point of view and could be understable but I saw we have the same recruiter so I ask you have you ever contact him to ask something? I did it a lot of time and I just have to say that I received tons of tips and help. He was very kind and patient so maybe the problem is that you wait for something instead of acting to receive it...try it...when a recruiter has so many recruits could be very difficult to attend all of them sending messages and contacting them...

Boebes5 objava1 godina godina

Turk184
I understand your point of view and could be understable but I saw we have the same recruiter so I ask you have you ever contact him to ask something? I did it a lot of time and I just have to say that I received tons of tips and help. He was very kind and patient so maybe the problem is that you wait for something instead of acting to receive it...try it...when a recruiter has so many recruits could be very difficult to attend all of them sending messages and contacting them...

@Turk184 Hi, thanx for your reply. No, I did not contact my recruiter, since I did not see it as my role and I felt no need to do so.

For the record; This post is not a 'complaint' towards my Recruiter (because when I joined the game I didnt even know I was 'recruited' by him/her). I will remove this line, so it doesn't distract from the purpose of this post.

It is however an in game suggestion to make the gameplay more balanced.

uređeno dana · 4 puta

Turk18420 objava5 mjeseci godina

Boebes
@Turk184 Hi, thanx for your reply. No, I did not contact my recruiter, since I did not see it as my role and I felt no need to do so.
For the record; This post is not a 'complaint' towards my Recruiter (because when I joined the game I didnt even know I was 'recruited' by him/her).

It is however an overall in game suggestion to make it more balanced.
@Boebes yes I got it, any way try to see the recruitment system like a kind of taxation. What I mean is that if you found the game without any recomendation you were assigned to a recruiter that spent a lot of money to have the right to received recreuits, so he was paying an amount of money (big amount) to kickoffboss (taxation) but you're contributing to it paying the 10% to your recreuiter...the recruiter acts like a kind of tax withholding agent

Boebes5 objava1 godina godina

Turk184
@Boebes yes I got it, any way try to see the recruitment system like a kind of taxation. What I mean is that if you found the game without any recomendation you were assigned to a recruiter that spent a lot of money to have the right to received recreuits, so he was paying an amount of money (big amount) to kickoffboss (taxation) but you're contributing to it paying the 10% to your recreuiter...the recruiter acts like a kind of tax withholding agent

@Turk184 That is an interesting way to look at it. However, I don't agree and I will try to explain.

The kind of taxes you refer to already exist in the game, the federation tax. This is the same for all players and that is just fine.

Besides that, there’s the recruiter tax. It’s not the same for all players. On the contrary, some players are actually favored because of it.

That creates an uneven playing field between teams that only keeps getting bigger. In a game where money is also involved (stadium upgrades, best players), that's an unfair element that affects the balance of the game, especially on the long run between the Haves and Have Nots.

Hence my suggestion to limit this advantage by setting a maximum on the number of seasons and number of recruits in which a player enjoys this benefit.

uređeno dana · 6 puta

Turk18420 objava5 mjeseci godina

Boebes
@Turk184 That is an interesting way to look at it. However, I don't agree and I will try to explain.

The kind of taxes you refer to already exist in the game, the federation tax. This is the same for all players and that is just fine.
Besides that, there’s the recruiter tax. It’s not the same for all players. On the contrary, some players are actually favored because of it.
That creates an uneven playing field between teams that only keeps growing. In a game where money is also involved (stadium upgrades, best players), that's an unfair element that affects the balance of the game, especially on the long run between the Haves and Have Nots.

Hence my suggestion to limit this advantage by setting a maximum on the number of seasons and number of recruits in which a player enjoys this benefit.

@Boebes yes I agree and understand your point of view any way it's impossible to make everything 100% fair in a pay to win game like this...

Thuru610 objava2 godina godina

You only pay 10% from league place, victory bonus and cups. Not a really big problem, because everybody pay. Yiu also can start bring people to kob and yiu shall then earn from them.

btw Some people paid lot from buying recruits. So limit is Anyway unwanted. And again yiu also can bring recruits in. This not only help yiu but also the game

uređeno dana · 1 puta

Boebes5 objava1 godina godina

Thuru
You only pay 10% from league place, victory bonus and cups. Not a really big problem, because everybody pay. Yiu also can start bring people to kob and yiu shall then earn from them.

btw Some people paid lot from buying recruits. So limit is Anyway unwanted. And again yiu also can bring recruits in. This not only help yiu but also the game

@Thuru It wouldn't be a problem when the bonus of recruits was limited in time and maximum amount of recruits one can manage. Now it seems just a Cash Cow on behalf of the players who do not want or cannot afford 'Recruits'. And there is no level playing field unfortunately.

PvPNyko133 objava2 godina godina

Make recruits limited in time. Make it 6 months, and then they go to open auction for another 6 months.

Thuru610 objava2 godina godina

Boebes
@Thuru It wouldn't be a problem when the bonus of recruits was limited in time and maximum amount of recruits one can manage. Now it seems just a Cash Cow on behalf of the players who do not want or cannot afford 'Recruits'. And there is no level playing field unfortunately.

@Boebes

also withoiut money you an recruit players. just advert your reflink on your facebook, your X, your Istagram, your tinder, and so on and so on and ofcourse bring fiends in the game. Its good for you and good for the game

as i earlier said that many players did bought recruits for lot of money, so a limit is really a not go. And again its only 10% from league bonus, visctorybonus and from cup and supercup, its only 10%, not a big problem.

so i should say, start now with bringing people in kob.

Thuru610 objava2 godina godina

PvPNyko
Make recruits limited in time. Make it 6 months, and then they go to open auction for another 6 months.

@PvPNyko

Boebes
@Thuru It wouldn't be a problem when the bonus of recruits was limited in time and maximum amount of recruits one can manage. Now it seems just a Cash Cow on behalf of the players who do not want or cannot afford 'Recruits'. And there is no level playing field unfortunately.

@Boebes

both, again. Yiu also can start with get recruits.

recruit them on your facebook, X, istagram, telegram, tinder, and so on. Recruit also your friends.

also again for both, many people have paid a lot for recruits so limit is a big no no. Better is start with get recruits, its also good for the game

for both, why dont you start with get recruits, its profitable and costs nothing.

problem solved

uređeno dana · 2 puta

maridiba395 objava2 godina godina

Boebes
This week I paid nearly more to my recruiter than the salaries of my players and coaches combined.
The amount (percentage) of the recruitertax is completely off in this game. It's seems to be just a money Cow for rich Recruiters without any in game benefits for the poor Recruits.

Do not misunderstand. The recruiter aspect is in my opinion a great idea to make this fun game Grow even bigger.
But the taxpercentage should be halved and have a maximum period of let's say, 3 seasons. As well as a maximum number of Recruits to manage. So it stays fun for Recruits as well. So they don't abandon the game later on because the difference in income between players is getting way too big for a level playing field.

A recruiter should be obliged to help his Recruit (what's in a name...) and get him or her going with tactical tips, game strategy etc. Should the recruiter fail to do this, he looses his income from this recruit.

If this game wants to grow on a moral level too, this elephant in the Room must be taken into account.

Anyone?

Hi @Boebes,

I'm your recruiter, and I've sent you 3 messages with tips so far, but I haven't heard back from you. They were broadcast messages, which I use to see if someone needs help but hesitates to take the initiative. If you need help with anything specific, just ask, and I'll reply whenever I can... after all, helping you is in my best interest too!

However, I don't really get your point: a recruiter isn't a private tutor, but someone who brings in new players and gets compensated for that effort. The referral system is a standard marketing strategy used across many platforms to incentivize user promotion. The tax isn't a gift; everyone pays it equally, even players who sign up without an invitation. Without this system, the game would likely have to spend more money on traditional advertising to grow, and that budget would still have to come out of the overall prize pool, nothing is free.

Frankly, the recruiter tax doesn't make a game-breaking difference; in fact, it’s fairly negligible. To put things into perspective: my team usually generates between 10k and 15k gold per season in gross revenue. Even though I’ve brought in over 1000 users and currently have more than 200 recruits (including some national champions), the recruiter tax accounts for roughly 5% of my total income. It hardly moves the needle. On top of that, you have to subtract what I pay to my own recruiter, which offsets most of that advantage.

As someone managing a top-tier team, the main reason I promote the game isn't the recruiter tax itself. It's because new users bring in activity, liquidity, and competition, which boosts the prize pool and also boosts my income far more than that 5% ever could.

Look on the bright side: you can also do some promotion yourself and earn extra income. Plus, having a top-ranked user with a direct financial incentive to help you is actually a big advantage... one I certainly didn't have when I started!

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