Forum > Announcements > Updates and Tweaks 03/10/24



nicmo
277 posts
3 years old
on 03-10-2024 14:47:37 (3 months ago)

Hello again, was hoping to complete this with yesterdays update but got pushed to today. Energy bars got a bit of an update, its now possible to have more than one type of them.

  • Trail mix was considered mandatory for the major boost it had in relation to the price, everyone used them so it was nerfed from 15% to 5% player boost, the price was increased as it was ridiculously cheap.
  • A new energy bar was introduced called Pro Bar. This bar has a 15% player boost (like old trail mix) and costs around 5 euros, in gold, also bough from the goods market.
  • All funds from global market sales continues to go to the Global Fund to fund international competitions and stadium tickets.

Minecodersam
167 posts
7 months old
on 03-10-2024 14:49:33 (3 months ago)

Finally, thanks. Energy bar was too op before 


hadras8
88 posts
7 months old
on 03-10-2024 15:07:47 (3 months ago)

the hell pro bar ^§^


Tecnocrazy
19 posts
7 months old
on 03-10-2024 15:45:35 (3 months ago)

When the economic foundations are ignored what is left is an economy in tatters... I just wonder how long it will take for it to become clear that this change was a mistake. I hope this mistake doesn't cost the game, putting the item at a price that doesn't make any economic sense will only reduce its sales drastically...who's going to buy trail mix after this?


nicmo
277 posts
3 years old
on 03-10-2024 15:48:46 (3 months ago)

hello Tecnocrazy, i love the word tatters, did you use a translator?

Anyway, if you want to see who buys trail mix or pro bar you can go to WORLD -> GLOBAL FUNDS and click transactions.


b1c10
73 posts
7 months old
on 03-10-2024 16:09:11 (3 months ago)

What a lightning update! Excellent update!

Now will calibrate the game more, why use 15% and in CL and CC, it was a practically insignificant value.

Good work @nicmo!


Stoneisland
118 posts
7 months old
on 03-10-2024 16:53:36 (3 months ago)

Hello friends, with this update I think we are moving towards a game for compulsive gamblers, nothing to do with a managerial game.
Spending 5 euros for a 15% per game that does not guarantee you victory, on 30 games per season takes you away 150 euros, for a first prize in the Italian federation of +/- 15 euros.
You will find yourself playing the CL or CC with a negative (+/-) -135 euros, if you were to go out in the first round of CL or CC you are left with a big negative.
A managerial game must have a much more complete administration of the game in all the components that constitute it and that give you the possibility of being able to manage a company in a managerial way and not fossilizing the game only in buying expensive bonuses, positions and roles of young people, buying names of players etc etc etc, which make you lose the concept of MANAGERIAL GAME.
In a previous press release, given my ten-year experience in managerial games, I had given suggestions that could lead the game into a more complete and long-lasting managerial management over time.
Now I am very disappointed with these changes, I think we are taking the wrong path for a managerial game and I foresee in the next seasons an emptying of investments on KOB and with them the decrease of the global fund itself.
I hope that Nicmo has done his sums well and advise. I can say for my part I have spent +/- 1,400 euros in this game, I no longer see the conditions to continue investing, because I do not see a long-lasting future for a managerial game. I think that my thought is the thought of many players who intended to continue investing in KOB but will no longer do so, given the poor and uncared for administrative part of the game itself.
I say these words because I care about this game and I hope to be listened to to prevent the failure and closure of the game itself.
A good evening to everyone.

edited on 03-10-2024 17:07:50 (1 times)

nicmo
277 posts
3 years old
on 03-10-2024 17:05:21 (3 months ago)

Stoneisland, the dooms day forecaster has spoken. \o/ \o/ \o/

thanks for your input

edited on 03-10-2024 17:06:01 (2 times)

BiSteam
46 posts
7 months old
on 03-10-2024 17:08:19 (3 months ago)

I agree that you can't choose a specific position for the player (R, C and L) but I don't agree that you are assigned a young player with a random role. I also don't understand why other positions for the stricker aren't introduced. I also actually find the new €5 energy bar too expensive


marian26
30 posts
7 months old
on 03-10-2024 17:10:31 (3 months ago)

The new Pro Bar it's 5€ each, or it is like 5€ for 100 pcs?


Urahara9831
5 posts
7 months old
on 03-10-2024 17:14:59 (3 months ago)

edited on 24-01-2025 09:43:09 (1 times)

hadras8
88 posts
7 months old
on 03-10-2024 17:23:12 (3 months ago)

you can use it in big big matches with the benefits you can get :)

eropa reward big reward 

5€ get 15% boost your player + your tactics=CL


nicmo
277 posts
3 years old
on 03-10-2024 17:27:48 (3 months ago)

Urahara9831, not sure why you think i am having fun reading doomdays comments.

Anyway, i read your other post too and i understand your frustration since you are a free to play player but i am sorry i don't have the ability to create money and give it to you so you can play and earn. If you want prizes for league results, international competitions, etc, you will be left out, if you don't invest. There is no way around it, don't expect to buy players for free when they are worth money, don't expect to buy items for cheap if they are worth more, i am sorry salaries of your players are getting expensive but they contribute to the prizes as well.

No one is forcing you to buy anything, your team will work fine without energy bars, i don't use them.


Stoneisland
118 posts
7 months old
on 03-10-2024 17:51:56 (3 months ago)

Nicmo, But you can't even build a managerial game with the sole absolute goal of the first prize of the CL.
1500 users aiming for a single goal. You have to give more money and autonomy to the federations by contributing to an increase in prizes that also incentivize the smallest and newest investor to invest in the game itself. From the taxes of the federations they contribute to the increase of the global fund. In the current system you don't incentivize new and small investors to invest, you only fossilize on the big investors who out of 1500 users will be +/- 50 people, who once they have brought the team and structures to the maximum you will no longer see them making large investments. You will have a period of 10/15 seasons where you will have very low investments and with it an emptying of the global fund.
The most alarming example is with the global fund, two seasons ago it was almost at 20K (all due to large investments) now we are +/-10.6k. If you do not create the conditions of continuity of new and small investments over time by everyone, a default will be created in the game's finances.
Then you are the creator of the game and surely you know what to do, mine is only a constructive criticism for the good of the game itself.


Xander
22 posts
7 months old
on 03-10-2024 18:01:49 (3 months ago)

More and more pay to win.


lysybandyta
176 posts
7 months old
on 03-10-2024 18:17:23 (3 months ago)

Once again to global.
What about national leagues? 4€ for middle table in Italy is a joke


Xax
7 posts
7 months old
on 03-10-2024 19:03:26 (3 months ago)

How about players who bought their Trail Mix in advanced at cheaper price? Again changes that are advantages for players who spent lot of money at start of the game. Maybe something that is at least good for new and old players, not just advantages for old ones.


Speed
18 posts
7 months old
on 03-10-2024 20:09:43 (3 months ago)

Surely more money should be distributed for individual matches won and the final position in the national championships, otherwise medium and small teams will not be encouraged to play


RickGrimes
8 posts
7 months old
on 03-10-2024 20:42:29 (3 months ago)

Who out of CL or CC will buy energy? Noone..so less money for funds. I don't see the movement


Tecnocrazy
19 posts
7 months old
on 03-10-2024 21:14:20 (3 months ago)

I see that Nicmo brought up the discussion of re-evaluating the trail mix, but it is also important to review the other change, that of young players, Imagine paying your youngsters and they all come from the exact same position, having to throw good youngsters away because you have too many forwards or defenders


Minecodersam
167 posts
7 months old
on 04-10-2024 00:07:38 (3 months ago)

5€ can seem crazy for a temporary boost, but remember that everyone who bought energy boost was 90% always winning and this is not good for the balance of the game (and for the economy too because 0.6 gold was too much damn low for a huge boost)


Minecodersam
167 posts
7 months old
on 04-10-2024 00:10:16 (3 months ago)

i saw peope using it in little tournaments too like it's free, cmon, it's a 15% boost, it's not peanuts :/

edited on 04-10-2024 00:12:18 (1 times)

Fletcher90
23 posts
7 months old
on 04-10-2024 09:06:50 (3 months ago)

Not sure why so many negative comments for this change, in my opinion nicmo is fully right, getting 15% for peanuts money is not good, everyone use it, even sometimes for games for unmanaged teams. 5EUR is really much, probably should be slighlty lower, but idea is to use it only when is critical, like game that can give 1 place in league or cup finals, or international games

edited on 04-10-2024 09:08:12 (1 times)

Harify
16 posts
7 months old
on 04-10-2024 09:19:38 (3 months ago)

5e To win a match, I don't know when to use it, even the league prize is only 100g :v

edited on 04-10-2024 09:20:07 (1 times)

viz
15 posts
7 months old
on 04-10-2024 10:52:15 (3 months ago)

This, along with the management of funds in the federations, drives away new players. It's the opposite of what we need.


Fletcher90
23 posts
7 months old
on 04-10-2024 11:39:00 (3 months ago)

 I agree for federation fund, it should get more money, but not sure why optional energy will affect number of players? You can play without it


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