Forum > Suggestions (International) > Legendary Coaches ! The Missing Piece for Real Football Management



Iordache
91 posts
11 months old
on 01-05-2025 20:13:40 (2 weeks ago)

Just a thought, from someone who values performance over shortcuts:
Suppose Kick Off Boss truly strives for football realism. Wouldn’t it be natural to introduce legendary coaches, professionals capable of accelerating player development even past the age of 25, using elite methods?

In real football, it's not just raw talent that wins matches; it's also the minds behind the scenes.
So if we’re already managing like real clubs, why not allow us to invest in a virtual Guardiola, Mourinho, or Klopp?

No drama, no complaints, please, just a strategic idea for those who understand that staff quality can be just as decisive as a transfer.
Thoughts from the top bench?

@Nicmo? :)


Speed
19 posts
11 months old
on 01-05-2025 21:37:43 (2 weeks ago)

No good for me.


maridiba
183 posts
11 months old
on 01-05-2025 22:19:46 (2 weeks ago)

This is a football manager game, we are supposed to do what Guardiola, Mourinho and Klopp do,  not to hire them. We are the ones deciding the formations and the line up, among the other things


Iordache
91 posts
11 months old
on 01-05-2025 22:50:02 (2 weeks ago)

@Maridiba, 

I see what you're saying, but maybe I wasn’t clear enough...

I wasn’t suggesting we play as Guardiola or Klopp, the idea is to be able to hire fictional legendary-level coaches in-game who, just like in real football, can accelerate training, including mature players (over 25), not just wonderkids.

We, as managers, still make the tactical decisions... that part doesn’t change.
But in a game that aims for realism, there should also be a real difference between an average staff and an exceptional one.
A top coach doesn’t pick your formation, but they can transform your players. That would open up a whole new strategic layer, not just for those who invest but also for those who plan long-term.

It’s a suggestion that brings more depth and realism, not a shortcut ...
And of course, I respect every perspective... everyone has their own play style.


P.S. This idea doesn’t replace the manager. On the contrary, it empowers the role.
And if the thought of differentiation through staff quality feels “uncomfortable,” maybe that’s exactly why it’s worth discussing 😉


Landlord
164 posts
11 months old
on 02-05-2025 08:33:31 (2 weeks ago)

Iordache: My only view on this suggestion is that you have some idea, big talk for big clubs but don't ever talk about cut in wages when things goes all the way up again. Look CL and all the international competitions, If I have all data from season on to date I believe it would point out that those international prizes are at all time lowest. The cut in salaries was the very reason those prize fell drastically and probably not in the focast of how dev had plan the future data. The salaries were meant to go up so prizes gain significant amount even when the investment is low since most the big investors already had full squad and full facilities, those investments from earlier season are the one still going in cycle of wages to make up for prizes and i remembered how some of the big clubs protested over those wages as too high.. Now you want a boost to training and then expect wages to be nice again when you go too fast up ahead the game development?

 

Of course I want your idea to be voted for, more way to invest in kob and I also suggested more facilities that gives one benefit or another, cause right now the one time investment facilities to build top tier stadium, training and the rest are to small, in some entertainment games there are things that cost more than those facilities put together with no actual return, it would not be fair for new players to have those facilities price increase but you can bring in more facilities with irresistible benefits and advantages at good prices that will futher give the one time investment into the game a boost. 

i was in this grand mobile game and a friend in the game I met from EU was competing to be at top 3 in score on game event and she told me she spent almost €100 daily to get token to keep up with other player all through a month length, lasting events. What she got from those event are toy cars and fake currency that can only be used in the game and she spent a lot lot hehe.

But I guess it's for game dev to understand the interest of it game players just like the grand mobile rp and giving them what they want and the price for it may not be so significant as much it matches players interests. If Kob top investors can afford it for then for sure it should be considered. and in the case of kob and any other online game this is how it grows, more investment from it top fans alone can put the game in positive financial trend:)


ChooseAnotherNickname
16 posts
9 months old
on 02-05-2025 11:25:44 (2 weeks ago)

@Lordache Your idea is just to made this game more UNrealistic. In real live there is a coach (real players in the game) and his staff (star coaches in game). It's already improved what you are asking for. Buy 5* coaches, they are LEGENDS.


Iordache
91 posts
11 months old
on 02-05-2025 12:09:06 (2 weeks ago)

 

@Landlord, balancing salaries and the AVQ growth calculator now offers dedicated managers fresh strategic options... smiley

Introducing elite coaches isn't a shortcut; it's a way to add depth and realism to the game. It allows players to enhance their teams through investments in technical staff, much like in real football. For some, it's not just about finances but about performance, strategy, and yes... the passion for victory.

Even if the rewards are just virtual trophies or symbolic prizes (toy cars), ... for many managers, the satisfaction comes from building a strong team and overcoming challenges, not just from material gains.

 

@AnotheNick, 5-star coaches are like tour guides. They take you on the classic route. 7-star coaches? They show you how to climb Everest, even if your backpack is full of doubts.

edited on 02-05-2025 12:18:05 (1 times)

Landlord
164 posts
11 months old
on 02-05-2025 12:19:58 (2 weeks ago)

Iordache coming with bullion van investment.. Best news  in kob since while, 

I hope nicmo consider bringing in elite coaches and more training facility that make player gain train faster, nothing can go wrong having more options to go about lol

 

+++1😁


Thuru
246 posts
11 months old
on 02-05-2025 14:14:50 (2 weeks ago)

@Lordland

The costs of facility is never a problem because they are still low.

people want have 90+ avg, but not for every price so it must be payable.


nicmo
344 posts
3 years old
on 02-05-2025 15:38:37 (2 weeks ago)

feel free to brain storm, maybe we can find some good ideas.


Spiler
47 posts
9 months old
on 02-05-2025 17:01:47 (2 weeks ago)

@Landlord

Since wages goes mainly to league funds, cutting the wages didn t do almost nothing to the CL found. Recalculating the AVQ rates was the fair thing to do. Globlal Found suffer from recent poor investment rate, nobody buys youngsters lately, plenty of good players on market with low prices, and so on

edited on 02-05-2025 17:02:13 (1 times)

Landlord
164 posts
11 months old
on 03-05-2025 09:36:00 (2 weeks ago)

@Spiler yeah you said something that spark an idea, the global fund money is most from player signing and investment on facilities. So i suggest earlier to bring in more player position with advance formation like 4231, 4321 and correcting 541 and 532 lb and rb to wlb and wrb. More player positions (AML/AMR, AMC, DMC, WLB/WRB) this could bring in money from youth signing to get the new players positions, transfer market benefits from it as well as we all may wan to play and have fun with new advance formation that does better in modern football. 

 

I as well suggested more facilities and staff, bring on new elite scout that work with advance youth facilities, depending on the level of advance youth facility enabled them to scout player positions at the level of the facilities. Maybe every season they can sign one or two from the facility. No random player on the advance facility, cost more and more so require elite scouting staff to search for youth through the facility.. Or maybe it is time bring in the youth players pools that was suggested in the past. With elite scout and the top advance facility the club have access to youth player pool on specific period. Those player in the pool are special and train faster, anyone of the the player sign has 1 free positions and foot change. The youth pool maybe only refill once on off season and open till mid season. It has 3 to 5 slot for each position: strike, midfield, defender and Goalkeeper, in the case of new player positions added advance forward players has it own slot. Any player sight has random position except for goalkeeper. With the free position change and foot change they can always switch for the preferred position and foot.

@thuru might have guessed and suggested: more facilities isn't of any much cost to keep but gives the site more one time investment boost so more facilities would be cool even if their existence don't add much benefits than for fun. My suggestions regarding some of those facilities that could of related football interests was on discord from last month. Hopefully something new really come in on next update especially to players. More features to player at this point is necessary and interest of many.

 

Bring in football kits for gold, it may no have any impact or bonus rather for fun. but i see many buying to have their favourite club or country Jersey display on their club menu. Just bring lot of customise items to club, stadium, colours or even tools for player to design their own jersey and paint their stadium different colours for gold. This should generate something for global fund :) 


maridiba
183 posts
11 months old
on 03-05-2025 13:59:57 (2 weeks ago)

@Iordache then you are not looking for Guardiola and Klopp, they wouldn't let us choose the lineup XD

Are you just proposing to increase the bonus from coaches like those who are already available in the game, for example by adding a couple levels more (or even new ones giving an additional bonus, but that would be equivalent)? That would be definitely feasible, but how that would bring more depth and realism into the game? We would just spend gold once to buy them and keep playing as it is now. Aren't you maybe embellishing the story a little?

It would probably change the situation a bit because the new generation of players would be stronger than the current one, then such update could slightly favour the ones with younger players, especially if the bonuses receive a noticeable increase 


maridiba
183 posts
11 months old
on 03-05-2025 14:27:48 (2 weeks ago)

I also agree that we need to add features to increase the expenses, otherwise, we may soon be playing for peanuts.

Cosmetic items with no impact on the game are always welcome, obviously, even if they bring money just once and don't imply recurring costs.

But the important elements, the ones bringing in-game advantages, must generate much more recurring costs than starting costs for the economy to be stable. Now a 5* coach costs 20€ at the beginning and about 5 cents per month... that means when you buy him, it only fuels the funds for a couple of seasons, then it's just a burden for the system. It would have been much better with a 1€ signing fee and a 4€/month salary because it fuels the funds as long as he is used


Landlord
164 posts
11 months old
on 03-05-2025 15:04:52 (2 weeks ago)

Brilliant idea concerning staff salaries. With the benefit it offer it should have considerable season maintenance cost. Better  if it just 5 euro to hire 5 stars coach and then pay 1 to 5 euro cost on every season cycle. It will generate more revenue in the long run than as one time investment :) 

edited on 03-05-2025 15:18:37 (1 times)

Iordache
91 posts
11 months old
on 03-05-2025 15:12:21 (2 weeks ago)

@maidiba, 

Trainers who train other trainers? No way. Let Nicmo recruit elite coaches from across the world, already established, hard to reach, true 7 star legends. Seven trainers, each guided by destiny number 7, meant only for players with 77AVQ or higher, and over 26 years old. These trainers will enhance one player daily, adding one skill point per day, for three months... then, they can be put back on the market. Let's say the base price is 700 platinum... and it might increase if their players truly deliver. ✨

Obviously, I should get a discount, since I was the one who launched the global hunt for these magnificent seven. :)

I tell a beautiful story, don’t I? In fact, I totally deserve one of these trainers for free. And if, after this message, @markitoss comes after me like a pack of wolves... just because I’m casually throwing around luxury cruise pricing 🤩😁, it’s all your fault ! … you keep provoking me to create immortal stories.
Classy chaos, always with a purpose.😉♟️


Landlord
164 posts
11 months old
on 03-05-2025 15:24:20 (2 weeks ago)

Evil genius 💡

700 plantinum for such staff is true beautiful story, that will generate enough revenue for global fund and see to next season cl has good prizes. 

​​​​​​Though it's you who is leading this campaign and should be first to buy! A true leader should set examples? @lordach🤣

edited on 03-05-2025 15:27:18 (1 times)

Thuru
246 posts
11 months old
on 04-05-2025 00:36:16 (2 weeks ago)

Lordache, everybody must can buy such trainer, even if they have lower 77 avg if they want that.


PvPNyko
89 posts
10 months old
on 04-05-2025 20:23:11 (2 weeks ago)

Not one time buy. Money must keep flowing.

Monthly bidding like referrals. +1% boost to team for the season.

1% boost isnt much, so not much pay to win, but i think topclubs will bid for it.


maridiba
183 posts
11 months old
on 04-05-2025 20:43:18 (2 weeks ago)

Monthly bidding for a bonus? Is it supposed to be a joke or a football manager game?

Money must keep flowing, but things must be kept as realistic as possible. The solution to keep the economy stable is to keep it realistic: more recurring costs and fewer one-time expenses.

Players' salaries should still keep rising for a few seasons as the players keep improving, then we should have more money to feed the funds. If it's not enough, it's always possible to increase them.

That said, staff salaries should probably increase as well: maybe the coaches could have a coaching skill, so that they are not all equal, give a training bonus according to their skill, and also be paid accordingly. The transition for the existing ones could be quite simple: skill = stars * 10. And then one could keep them training or study to increase their coaching skill (and pay them more after that)  

edited on 04-05-2025 23:44:00 (3 times)

Iordache
91 posts
11 months old
on 05-05-2025 07:57:42 (2 weeks ago)

 

Hey, the idea with the 7 star coaches isn't about creating an unfair advantage, but rather adding realism and depth to the game. In real football, clubs invest in top-tier coaches because experience and quality staff make a huge difference  regardless of the players' age.

If we think about it realistically, over the next 10 months, very few managers are likely to invest in young players. Those with mature players will continue with stable wages, without the pressure of reinvesting. That's not a problem, but an opportunity: to invest in staff and optimize what you already have.

The game is still experimental, and it aims to reflect real life, where top-tier coaches are definitely more valuable than the standard 5-star ones. In the end, it’s all about options, strategy, and balance , not about unfair advantages. The more freedom we have to make choices, the more interesting the game will become for everyone.


 


Iordache
91 posts
11 months old
on 05-05-2025 08:16:23 (2 weeks ago)

And this is not some arcade game. Big name coaches do not sign lifetime contracts... they come in for 1 or 2 years, prove themselves, then move on. That kind of dynamic is in real life… or not!? 😇


Joko_jendelaSMP
29 posts
11 months old
on 05-05-2025 10:10:41 (1 week ago)

maybe start the legend with auction

let says start in 1euro in low season and the time is for half month or 14 days

after that, we as player need to think what condition and strategy use to finish the remaining match.

 

so, 1 time in a month and only help us a half month with the auction method


villarreal
68 posts
7 months old
on 05-05-2025 11:10:05 (1 week ago)

To maintain the highest training ability even after 25 years old, the best facilities are needed.
Legendary coach at a team with the best training facilities. Wow! This is going to be a top team in the world.


maridiba
183 posts
11 months old
on 05-05-2025 21:17:10 (1 week ago)

I like the idea of being able to improve the coaches, especially because of the consequences for the game economy; having all of them equals kinda flattens everything, but if you can improve them you can have an added value for your team and also contribute more to game economy by paying higher salaries. Also, a ranking of the best coaches (and even a market?) could start making sense. That seems fun

For sure the top teams would go for it, and with salaries growing exponentially based on coaching skills the funds would be refilled easily.

But then a question arise: how much can the coaching performances really grow? With the current situation, the 5* players of the first generation (let's say 23-25 yrs old) are dominant and things will stay like that until their skills start decreasing.

If coaches become too effective, the gap between them and younger players will decrease faster. With an extreme example, with the coaches doubling their bonus, the current teens would grow so fast that they could even outperform the first generation before the effects of the aging kick in. It must be tuned carefully

edited on 05-05-2025 21:29:04 (3 times)

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