Forum > Suggestions (International) > Increase the number of youth prospects in certain countries


jaimep96
14 posts
1 year old
on (2 weeks ago)

Hello everyone,

I'd like to suggest that the number of youth prospects available should scale with the number of active managers in each country.

For example, in Spain it's almost impossible to sign a prospect more than 2–3 days after they appear. Because of that, the current scouting system (revealing one attribute every 2 days) often becomes pointless, as every prospects are signed without any information.

I know we can hire scouts and search for prospects in other countries, but I think this imbalance could have negative long-term effects. Managers with larger budgets who are looking for 5-star talents will simply move their scouting abroad, reducing interest in their own country's youth system.

Scaling the number of prospects to the size of each country's player base could help keep the market healthier and make scouting more meaningful.

Stoneisland
271 posts
2 years old
on (2 weeks ago)

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Peter69
6 posts
2 years old
on (2 weeks ago)

True... I'm upgrading my youth academy level to see if I can land a young prospect with good stats, but it's almost impossible.

Chantilax
29 posts
1 year old
on (2 weeks ago)

The problem is the price of scouts. There are many Spanish managers, but few pay for scouts, and they sign young players from Spain without waiting to see their abilities.

Proposal:
Without a scout, you don't see any young players.

If you only see players from your own country and sign one-star youth players, there will be no more strong Spanish players, and that will hurt the Spanish national team. If we require payment for scouts to cover continents, it's fairer for everyone. You pay? You see. You don't pay? You don't see.

As things stand, we're hurting the national teams of the countries with the most players in the game. Therefore, we're undermining the aspect that would greatly increase player loyalty. If there are many Spanish players, we should be able to have a strong Spanish national team, not the other way around.

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maridiba
366 posts
2 years old
on (2 weeks ago)

Chantilax

The problem is the price of scouts. There are many Spanish managers, but few pay for scouts, and they sign young players from Spain without waiting to see their abilities.

Proposal:
Without a scout, you don't see any young players.

If you only see players from your own country and sign one-star youth players, there will be no more strong Spanish players, and that will hurt the Spanish national team. If we require payment for scouts to cover continents, it's fairer for everyone. You pay? You see. You don't pay? You don't see.

As things stand, we're hurting the national teams of the countries with the most players in the game. Therefore, we're undermining the aspect that would greatly increase player loyalty. If there are many Spanish players, we should be able to have a strong Spanish national team, not the other way around.

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@Chantilax, that problem is solved with the second citizenship. You can't force those who want to pay for free to spend money for the scouts. The game is not only for those who spend
 

Chantilax
29 posts
1 year old
on (2 weeks ago)

maridiba

@Chantilax, that problem is solved with the second citizenship. You can't force those who want to pay for free to spend money for the scouts. The game is not only for those who spend
 

@maridiba 

I'm not worried about whether they spend or not; everyone is free to decide whether to spend or not, of course. However, what we're saying is that the countries with the most players will soon have very weak national teams. When that happens, you can tell me otherwise, and we'll continue like this.

Dual nationalization doesn't work. Only players who haven't been called up can become naturalized, and as you well know, that reduces the number of eligible players to a very small number, mostly those of a certain level. In my case, they're already being called up by their countries at 18, so you tell me how you do it... you promote them to the first team, propose dual nationality that same day, and talk to the national team coach so he calls them up quickly. It's the only option... so you tell me if that's a solution.

The game is for everyone, of course it is, but in the end, this way of taking young players out of the country will ruin international competitions. But... when the time comes, and for example Spain, the Netherlands, Romania, or to a lesser extent Italy, France, Germany, or Poland barely have any "stars," then we'll lament it and watch Wales win the World Cup (with all due respect).

We need to think about solutions, not just stopgap measures, and we also need to consider those who make money in the game, because it seems those who don't spend a single euro are considered more important. People who decide not to spend a single euro on the game couldn't care less about how their national team will be in 6-12 months.

maridiba
366 posts
2 years old
on (2 weeks ago)

Chantilax

@maridiba 

I'm not worried about whether they spend or not; everyone is free to decide whether to spend or not, of course. However, what we're saying is that the countries with the most players will soon have very weak national teams. When that happens, you can tell me otherwise, and we'll continue like this.

Dual nationalization doesn't work. Only players who haven't been called up can become naturalized, and as you well know, that reduces the number of eligible players to a very small number, mostly those of a certain level. In my case, they're already being called up by their countries at 18, so you tell me how you do it... you promote them to the first team, propose dual nationality that same day, and talk to the national team coach so he calls them up quickly. It's the only option... so you tell me if that's a solution.

The game is for everyone, of course it is, but in the end, this way of taking young players out of the country will ruin international competitions. But... when the time comes, and for example Spain, the Netherlands, Romania, or to a lesser extent Italy, France, Germany, or Poland barely have any "stars," then we'll lament it and watch Wales win the World Cup (with all due respect).

We need to think about solutions, not just stopgap measures, and we also need to consider those who make money in the game, because it seems those who don't spend a single euro are considered more important. People who decide not to spend a single euro on the game couldn't care less about how their national team will be in 6-12 months.

@Chantilax as far as I know, there is no need to bother the NT coach. Once they get the second citizenship, they are only available for the new National Team. The countries with the best clubs can still have the best national teams in about 1 year, but it depends on the managers of the clubs. I don't think all the users consider it important

jaimep96
14 posts
1 year old
on (2 weeks ago)

Chantilax

@maridiba 

I'm not worried about whether they spend or not; everyone is free to decide whether to spend or not, of course. However, what we're saying is that the countries with the most players will soon have very weak national teams. When that happens, you can tell me otherwise, and we'll continue like this.

Dual nationalization doesn't work. Only players who haven't been called up can become naturalized, and as you well know, that reduces the number of eligible players to a very small number, mostly those of a certain level. In my case, they're already being called up by their countries at 18, so you tell me how you do it... you promote them to the first team, propose dual nationality that same day, and talk to the national team coach so he calls them up quickly. It's the only option... so you tell me if that's a solution.

The game is for everyone, of course it is, but in the end, this way of taking young players out of the country will ruin international competitions. But... when the time comes, and for example Spain, the Netherlands, Romania, or to a lesser extent Italy, France, Germany, or Poland barely have any "stars," then we'll lament it and watch Wales win the World Cup (with all due respect).

We need to think about solutions, not just stopgap measures, and we also need to consider those who make money in the game, because it seems those who don't spend a single euro are considered more important. People who decide not to spend a single euro on the game couldn't care less about how their national team will be in 6-12 months.

I completely agree with @Chantilax. Maybe my previous suggestion is not the best solution. We could increase the number of prospects in every country (why only 6?) or perhaps the number of available prospects could depend on the number of scouts, or even on how many prospects were signed in that country during the previous season.

I don't really mind which solution is chosen, but I do think we need to rethink the current system.

Thuru
553 posts
2 years old
on (2 weeks ago)

Feel free to loot youth from Denmark.

Chantilax
29 posts
1 year old
on (2 weeks ago)

maridiba

@Chantilax Por lo que sé, no hay necesidad de molestar al entrenador de la selección nacional. Una vez que obtienen la segunda ciudadanía, solo están disponibles para la nueva selección nacional. Los países con los mejores clubes aún pueden tener las mejores selecciones nacionales en aproximadamente un año, pero depende de los entrenadores de los clubes. No creo que todos los usuarios lo consideren importante.

@maridiba 

I believe that for a player to be eligible, they must have played four seasons in the host country. Imagine I have a youth player from the Philippines, and I've bought a five-star player. The Philippine national team coach will definitely call him up after those four seasons because there aren't any top players in the Philippine league. And the same goes for Denmark, Greece, Canada, etc. It's impossible to naturalize anyone good under those conditions.

Therefore, it's not a solution. 

I hope something can be done about this.

Regards

 

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Turk184
7 posts
1 month old
on (2 weeks ago)

when a new player join the game the tutorial offers him a young player for free. Normally the first player on the list is the one signed and this could be a problem if you consider the high percentage of players that join the game but leave it soon. So many prospects wasted.

Maybe could help to offer different prospects during the tutorial not players of the country list...
 

maridiba
366 posts
2 years old
on (2 weeks ago)

There is always the option to go back to the previous system: no info on the players, you only decide how many stars, and you get a random 15-year-old from your club's country.
Everyone has the same chances of getting a good one, regardless of the country, and the national team is representative of the level of the teams...

But after all the work @nicmo put into the second citizenship feature, it looks a bit like a waste. And the scouts would be almost useless...

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Chantilax
29 posts
1 year old
on (2 weeks ago)

maridiba

Siempre existe la opción de volver al sistema anterior: sin información sobre los jugadores, solo decides cuántas estrellas y te toca un chico de 15 años elegido al azar del país de tu club.
Todos tienen las mismas posibilidades de conseguir uno bueno, independientemente del país, y la selección nacional es representativa del nivel de los equipos...

Pero después de todo el trabajo que @nicmo dedicó a la segunda función de ciudadanía, parece un poco un desperdicio. Y los ojeadores serían prácticamente inútiles...

@maridiba 

That's why scouts are so important. You either have scouts or you don't see young talent. Players who don't want to invest in scouting are perfectly fine, but they shouldn't have access to youth teams because, unintentionally, they're harming national teams in the long run.

Players who freely choose not to invest in scouts can sign as free agents. This would solve the future problem, and Spanish managers who invest would have access to good players from our country who could then become part of the national team. I think that's positive for the game: strong national teams where managers invest money. Now we're heading towards the opposite; in the countries where the most money is invested in the game, there will be very weak national teams in the future. It doesn't seem logical.

The issue of second nationality needs to be reconsidered so that the work @Nicmo has done has any real impact. If it takes four years to be naturalized, a five-star player from a country with hardly any managers investing (for example, Greece) will never be available for naturalization. So, what's the point of this system?

Chantilax
29 posts
1 year old
on (2 weeks ago)

Turk184

when a new player join the game the tutorial offers him a young player for free. Normally the first player on the list is the one signed and this could be a problem if you consider the high percentage of players that join the game but leave it soon. So many prospects wasted.

Maybe could help to offer different prospects during the tutorial not players of the country list...
 

@Turk184 If every new manager who registers for the game signs a free youth player from their country of residence, the more players register from Spain, the fewer youth players will be available. These free youth players seem great to me, but they shouldn't be on the roster, otherwise there will never be any players who reach Day 4, for example, to find out if they have a TRAIT or not.

Silva007
56 posts
9 months old
on (2 weeks ago)

jaimep96

Hello everyone,

I'd like to suggest that the number of youth prospects available should scale with the number of active managers in each country.

For example, in Spain it's almost impossible to sign a prospect more than 2–3 days after they appear. Because of that, the current scouting system (revealing one attribute every 2 days) often becomes pointless, as every prospects are signed without any information.

I know we can hire scouts and search for prospects in other countries, but I think this imbalance could have negative long-term effects. Managers with larger budgets who are looking for 5-star talents will simply move their scouting abroad, reducing interest in their own country's youth system.

Scaling the number of prospects to the size of each country's player base could help keep the market healthier and make scouting more meaningful.

@jaimep96 

Hello, Jaime.

I think your proposal is interesting and makes sense from a certain point of view. Some managers will probably agree with it, while others may see it differently. I'd like to share one of those different perspectives.

The main goal of your suggestion is to make it easier to find talented youth players, especially in countries with a large number of active managers. At first glance, that seems like a positive improvement. However, I believe it could have an important side effect on the game's economy.

The higher the probability of promoting a genuinely promising youth player, the greater the incentive for clubs to rely on their academies more often. Many clubs could start promoting between three and seven youth players every season because the risk of getting a poor player would be much lower.

The problem is that this would significantly increase the number of players entering the market. And, as in any economy, the law of supply and demand comes into play: when supply increases, demand tends to decrease.

In practice, clubs would become less dependent on the transfer market to find young talent. With fewer buyers, players listed for transfer would lose value, the number of transfers would decline, and transfer fees would likely fall.

Although the current system may seem more difficult, it creates an interesting balance. Every club has the same chance of producing an excellent youth player. At the same time, because there is always the risk of promoting a poor player, many managers choose to buy young players from the transfer market instead, which helps keep the market active and valuable.

If we remove most of that risk, clubs will have much less need to buy players. And when you eventually decide to sell one of your academy graduates, you'll probably find many similar players available, naturally driving down their market value.

For that reason, I believe this proposal deserves careful consideration. It could solve one specific issue, but it might also create an economic imbalance that affects the entire transfer market.

In any case, thank you for bringing up the discussion. These kinds of debates are exactly what help the game continue to improve.

Silva007
56 posts
9 months old
on (2 weeks ago)

Chantilax

@maridiba 

I'm not worried about whether they spend or not; everyone is free to decide whether to spend or not, of course. However, what we're saying is that the countries with the most players will soon have very weak national teams. When that happens, you can tell me otherwise, and we'll continue like this.

Dual nationalization doesn't work. Only players who haven't been called up can become naturalized, and as you well know, that reduces the number of eligible players to a very small number, mostly those of a certain level. In my case, they're already being called up by their countries at 18, so you tell me how you do it... you promote them to the first team, propose dual nationality that same day, and talk to the national team coach so he calls them up quickly. It's the only option... so you tell me if that's a solution.

The game is for everyone, of course it is, but in the end, this way of taking young players out of the country will ruin international competitions. But... when the time comes, and for example Spain, the Netherlands, Romania, or to a lesser extent Italy, France, Germany, or Poland barely have any "stars," then we'll lament it and watch Wales win the World Cup (with all due respect).

We need to think about solutions, not just stopgap measures, and we also need to consider those who make money in the game, because it seems those who don't spend a single euro are considered more important. People who decide not to spend a single euro on the game couldn't care less about how their national team will be in 6-12 months.

@Chantilax

Hello, Chantilax.

Please don't take this as a personal attack. However, I disagree with your conclusion that countries with many active managers will inevitably end up with weaker national teams. I also disagree with the claim that the dual nationality system does not work.

In my opinion, this conclusion is not supported by either the available statistics or the existing evidence.

Let's look at a simple example:

  • A country with 50 active managers can potentially produce at least 150 youth players per season.
  • A smaller country with 30 active managers can potentially produce at least 90 youth players per season.

The same logic applies to dual nationality. A country with 50 active managers also has more opportunities to naturalize eligible players than a country with only 30 active managers. The rule that a player cannot be naturalized after already being called up by a national team applies equally to every country. In other words, the rules are the same for everyone.

For this reason, larger countries naturally have access to a much bigger pool of players, both through their youth academies and through dual nationality. Statistically, they still have a higher probability of building stronger national teams than smaller countries.

I also believe your argument is based on an assumption that has not yet been demonstrated.

You assume that Spanish managers will mostly develop foreign players instead of Spanish ones. But where is the statistical evidence that this actually happens on a scale large enough to weaken Spain's national team?

First, you're overlooking the fact that Spanish managers have priority over those players for four seasons and can naturalize them if they choose to do so.

Finally, the scouting system is exactly the same for every country. If Spanish managers search for talent abroad, managers from smaller countries can do exactly the same. This behavior is not unique to Spain.

In reality, the flow of players goes both ways. Some Spanish managers may develop foreign players, while managers from other countries may also develop Spanish players. Without statistical evidence showing that this balance is consistently negative for larger countries, I don't believe we can conclude that their national teams will inevitably become weaker.

A smaller country can only outperform a larger one if its managers are more active, make better decisions, or invest more resources into youth development—for example, by promoting players with extra potential (by spending Euros/Platinum). But that possibility exists for every country, regardless of its size.

To me, this is above all an empirical question. If, in the future, the data shows that countries with more active managers consistently end up with weaker national teams despite producing significantly more players, then I will fully support a discussion about changing the system.

But until such evidence exists, I don't believe it is possible to conclude that the current system will inevitably weaken the national teams of larger countries.

Constantin
3 posts
4 months old
on (2 weeks ago)

Since people keep insisting, I’d offer a solution: for those without a scout, create a separate category featuring 6 players from 6 different nations—instead of, say, having to pick 6 from Spain, make it a special category with 6 players of different nationalities from across all countries. It would offer the same odds as before—including players from Spain, Italy, France, etc.—but ensure fairness through representation, with one player chosen from each country. The rest would remain the same. A special category for those without a scout—offering the same chances but ensuring national balance. If that’s what they really want.
Chantilax
29 posts
1 year old
on (2 weeks ago)

Silva007

@Chantilax

Hola, Chantilax.

Por favor, no lo tomes como un ataque personal. Sin embargo, no estoy de acuerdo con tu conclusión de que los países con muchos entrenadores en activo inevitablemente tendrán selecciones nacionales más débiles. Tampoco estoy de acuerdo con la afirmación de que el sistema de doble nacionalidad no funciona.

En mi opinión, esta conclusión no está respaldada ni por las estadísticas disponibles ni por la evidencia existente.

Veamos un ejemplo sencillo:

  • Un país con 50 entrenadores en activo puede producir potencialmente al menos 150 jugadores juveniles por temporada.
  • Un país pequeño con 30 entrenadores en activo puede producir potencialmente al menos 90 jugadores juveniles por temporada.

La misma lógica se aplica a la doble nacionalidad. Un país con 50 entrenadores en activo tiene más oportunidades de naturalizar a jugadores elegibles que un país con solo 30. La norma que impide la naturalización de un jugador tras haber sido convocado por una selección nacional se aplica por igual a todos los países. En otras palabras, las reglas son las mismas para todos.

Por este motivo, los países más grandes tienen acceso, naturalmente, a una cantera mucho mayor de jugadores, tanto a través de sus academias juveniles como mediante la doble nacionalidad. Estadísticamente, siguen teniendo una mayor probabilidad de formar selecciones nacionales más fuertes que los países más pequeños.

También creo que su argumento se basa en una suposición que aún no ha sido demostrada.

Se da por sentado que los entrenadores españoles se centrarán en desarrollar jugadores extranjeros en lugar de españoles. Pero, ¿dónde están las pruebas estadísticas de que esto ocurra a una escala lo suficientemente grande como para debilitar a la selección española?

En primer lugar, estás pasando por alto el hecho de que los entrenadores españoles tienen prioridad sobre esos jugadores durante cuatro temporadas y pueden nacionalizarlos si así lo desean.

Finalmente, el sistema de captación de talentos es exactamente el mismo en todos los países. Si los directivos españoles buscan talento en el extranjero, los directivos de países más pequeños pueden hacer lo mismo. Esta práctica no es exclusiva de España.

En realidad, el flujo de jugadores es bidireccional. Algunos entrenadores españoles pueden formar jugadores extranjeros, mientras que entrenadores de otros países también pueden formar jugadores españoles. Sin datos estadísticos que demuestren que este balance es sistemáticamente negativo para los países más grandes, no creo que podamos concluir que sus selecciones nacionales se debilitarán inevitablemente.

Un país pequeño solo puede superar a uno grande si sus directivos son más proactivos, toman mejores decisiones o invierten más recursos en el desarrollo de jóvenes talentos; por ejemplo, promoviendo a jugadores con gran potencial (mediante la inversión en euros o platino). Pero esa posibilidad existe para todos los países, independientemente de su tamaño.

Para mí, se trata ante todo de una cuestión empírica. Si en el futuro los datos demuestran que los países con entrenadores más activos suelen tener selecciones nacionales más débiles a pesar de producir muchos más jugadores, entonces apoyaré plenamente un debate sobre la necesidad de cambiar el sistema.

Pero hasta que no existan tales pruebas, no creo que sea posible concluir que el sistema actual debilitará inevitablemente a las selecciones nacionales de los países más grandes.

@Silva007 

Of course, I don't take it as a personal attack. In the end, they're just different points of view, and we can be right or wrong.

I don't understand what you mean by more Spanish players appearing in youth academies than in Greece, for example. The reason is that with each new player registration, a newly created team takes a youth player blindly, without them having reached day 4. This is repeated time and time again, preventing any youth player from reaching day 4 and therefore forcing managers to buy them completely blindly. Are 150 players appearing? Yes, but all blindly. What difference does it make if 150 Spanish players and 40 Greek players appear if we can usually see the 40 Greek players on day 4 (at least) and in many cases on day 6, while with the Spanish players we only see them on day 1 or 2 and they're already bought? (Because since many managers from Spain register, they're given a youth player).

I also disagree with you regarding naturalization. I currently have a 17-year-old Argentinian player who hasn't been called up by Argentina yet, but I have to wait four seasons to be able to offer him dual nationality. If the Argentinian coach locates my player and calls him up, I've lost the opportunity. This happens every time, and with smaller countries, they're called up in the first season because they're the only five-star players from that country. (I have a 20-year-old Filipino player with 45 international caps). These are the facts.

I'm just trying to improve the system, not only for myself but also for the "strong" countries where more managers are investing their money. I completely respect people's decisions to invest money or not, but I don't agree with giving a youth player to each new registration from those available to everyone (it should be a player from another pool).

Finally, I'm not looking for confrontation with anyone; I'm just trying to have a discussion, right or wrong, and say what I think. In the end, it's all complaints, but constructive ones to try and improve the game for everyone. If all young Spanish players are bought as one-star players, then in the long run the national team will be weak.

Silva007
56 posts
9 months old
on (2 weeks ago)

Chantilax

@Silva007 

Of course, I don't take it as a personal attack. In the end, they're just different points of view, and we can be right or wrong.

I don't understand what you mean by more Spanish players appearing in youth academies than in Greece, for example. The reason is that with each new player registration, a newly created team takes a youth player blindly, without them having reached day 4. This is repeated time and time again, preventing any youth player from reaching day 4 and therefore forcing managers to buy them completely blindly. Are 150 players appearing? Yes, but all blindly. What difference does it make if 150 Spanish players and 40 Greek players appear if we can usually see the 40 Greek players on day 4 (at least) and in many cases on day 6, while with the Spanish players we only see them on day 1 or 2 and they're already bought? (Because since many managers from Spain register, they're given a youth player).

I also disagree with you regarding naturalization. I currently have a 17-year-old Argentinian player who hasn't been called up by Argentina yet, but I have to wait four seasons to be able to offer him dual nationality. If the Argentinian coach locates my player and calls him up, I've lost the opportunity. This happens every time, and with smaller countries, they're called up in the first season because they're the only five-star players from that country. (I have a 20-year-old Filipino player with 45 international caps). These are the facts.

I'm just trying to improve the system, not only for myself but also for the "strong" countries where more managers are investing their money. I completely respect people's decisions to invest money or not, but I don't agree with giving a youth player to each new registration from those available to everyone (it should be a player from another pool).

Finally, I'm not looking for confrontation with anyone; I'm just trying to have a discussion, right or wrong, and say what I think. In the end, it's all complaints, but constructive ones to try and improve the game for everyone. If all young Spanish players are bought as one-star players, then in the long run the national team will be weak.

@Chantilax

You raised some good points, and I have to agree with you on some of them.

I also get frustrated because, in many cases, I can't scout a youth player until the fifth day. Here in Brazil, we are experiencing the same issue. I also think it would be a great improvement if the free youth player given to newly created clubs came from a different pool. That alone would give managers a much better chance of scouting a player long enough to at least reveal their PQA before making a decision.

Regarding high-potential (4- or 5-star) youth players created with Euro/Platinum investment, I think the current behavior is largely driven by incentives. Managers often choose players from other nationalities simply because their scouts have had enough time to reveal more of their attributes, making those players a safer investment.

This creates a conflict of interests because managers naturally make decisions based on what is best for their clubs, not necessarily for their national teams.

So, perhaps the issue is not that larger countries generate too few talented players, but that the current scouting system encourages managers to choose players whose attributes are more visible, regardless of their nationality.

Maybe one possible solution would be to allow clubs to hide the nationality of youth players until they are promoted, or to allow managers to change a youth player's nationality for a reasonable cost before promotion. That way, clubs could continue making decisions based on player quality rather than nationality, while still helping national teams remain competitive.

Thank you for bringing more arguments into the discussion. These are exactly the kinds of ideas that can lead to good improvements in future updates.

nicmo
576 posts
4 years old
on (2 weeks ago)

great discussion guys, keep brainstorming :)

Thuru
553 posts
2 years old
on (1 week ago)

People can also always pick or loot youth from weak countries. Its good for the weak countries so they can have a chance to get by the best 32 and thats what we want. Big countries win CC/CL always so its also fine that they pick young youth elsewhere. Its very hard to become by the best 32 becouse other countries have better players. This gives the weak countries a slightly better chance if there get loot, specially if its 4 or 5 star.

Stoneisland
271 posts
2 years old
on (1 week ago)

You're never happy, you're always complaining, now you want to change the youth sector again, there will never be a solution that will satisfy everyone like in reality. Just play, now the real problem at Kob is the national teams, absurd.

Chantilax
29 posts
1 year old
on (1 week ago)

Thuru

La gente también puede elegir o reclutar jóvenes de países débiles. Esto es bueno para los países débiles, ya que les da la oportunidad de entrar en el top 32, que es lo que buscamos. Los países grandes siempre ganan el CC/CL, así que también está bien que elijan jóvenes de otros países. Es muy difícil entrar en el top 32 porque otros países tienen mejores jugadores. Esto les da a los países débiles una oportunidad ligeramente mejor si consiguen jugadores, especialmente si son de 4 o 5 estrellas.

@Thuru 

But youth players are usually selected starting on day 6 (many decide to buy the player after seeing their Trait on day 4), which is when you see their AVQ. In that sense, all countries are eligible, and that won't change.

I'm not saying that players from the UAE shouldn't be signed... managers will sign them if they see their potential. What we're talking about is the impossibility of signing players from countries with many managers (Spain, Italy, the Netherlands, Romania...). In the long run, this will mean there won't be good players from those countries.

In my case, I sign youth players from other countries because you have to wait until day 6 to see their Trait and assess their purchase based on the data available that day. I would love to be able to sign Spanish players in the same way.

 

Chantilax
29 posts
1 year old
on (1 week ago)

Stoneisland

You're never happy, you're always complaining, now you want to change the youth sector again, there will never be a solution that will satisfy everyone like in reality. Just play, now the real problem at Kob is the national teams, absurd.

@Stoneisland 

That's your opinion, which is fine. If I complain, it's not for myself, it's to improve the game. If we've started international competitions, and we can all improve them together, then great, right? I don't know if the problem with KoB is the national teams, but I do try to suggest possible improvements.

You're free to read them or not. If you don't like reading me, you know what to do. If you're not writing to contribute, it's better not to write at all, because that message you posted is simply to spread negativity. 

Stoneisland
271 posts
2 years old
on (1 week ago)

I didn't mean to attack you, just to clarify things for everyone. There will never be a complete solution to the problems that will satisfy everyone. Regarding the national and youth teams, I don't think anything should be changed because they work very well and we've reached the pinnacle of realism. It wouldn't make sense to change them by inventing science-fiction solutions that would lose the essence of the game. My humble opinion.

Chantilax
29 posts
1 year old
on (1 week ago)

Stoneisland

lo I didn't mean to attack you, just to clarify things for everyone. There will never be a complete solution to the problems that will satisfy everyone. Regarding the national and youth teams, I don't think anything should be changed because they work very well and we've reached the pinnacle of realism. It wouldn't make sense to change them by inventing science-fiction solutions that would lose the essence of the game. My humble opinion.

@Stoneisland I think that realism is that a powerful country in football like Spain, can have good 5-star players in the future. As it is now, there will come a day when there will only be 1-star players from Spain.

But well, I try to comment on it without further ado. In the end, others decide.

Regards.

Thuru
553 posts
2 years old
on (1 week ago)

Chantilax

@Stoneisland I think that realism is that a powerful country in football like Spain, can have good 5-star players in the future. As it is now, there will come a day when there will only be 1-star players from Spain.

But well, I try to comment on it without further ado. In the end, others decide.

Regards.

@Chantilax

Why do yiu think that in future only 1 star players are including youth.

Stoneisland
271 posts
2 years old
on (1 week ago)

The only solution without overturning the entire youth system might be for the player to receive the nationality of the team that raised him before turning 17 and being promoted to the first team, instead of waiting four seasons. This would be a simple and effective change.

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